ARVs not available locally, Villagers head to Loliondo

Yunomi

Village Elder
#3
Did you think Prince Williams was joking when he said that African population was too big? Or that Bill Gates vaccinations to African teenage boys and girls are what they are?
I stay on the red pill because that's where the truth is
 
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Deorro

Guest
#5
Did you think Prince Williams was joking when he said that African population was too big? Or that Bill Gates vaccinations to African teenage boys and girls are what they are?
I stay on the red pill because that's where the truth is

ile ujinga umejaa nayo inataka urudi shule tena usomeshwe from class 1
 

Kicharo

Village Elder
#6
Hizi ARVs zinafaa ku-investigatiwa. Tujue zo-usaidia, ama zo-uwaste watu.
The system nowadays is, ukipimwa, ukapitakana positve, unaekwa kwa ARVs straightaway.
Previously it was, ukifikia a certain level of CD4, unaekwa kwa ARVs.
Challenge is, unaeza pata mtu ako +ve siku nyingi, akunywangi hizo madawa, yet bado ako fit. researchers wanakuambia hao ni super-controllers. ati they are very few. yet in actual fact, the alleged super-controlling may be norm, rather than the exception.
lakini hizo ARVs, huezi kuzikunywa ukose kidney, pancreas, liver, heart, brain issues...
 
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Deorro

Guest
#7
Hizi ARVs zinafaa ku-investigatiwa. Tujue zo-usaidia, ama zo-uwaste watu.
The system nowadays is, ukipimwa, ukapitakana positve, unaekwa kwa ARVs straightaway.
Previously it was, ukifikia a certain level of CD4, unaekwa kwa ARVs.
Challenge is, unaeza pata mtu ako +ve siku nyingi, akunywangi hizo madawa, yet bado ako fit. researchers wanakuambia hao ni super-controllers. ati they are very few. yet in actual fact, the alleged super-controlling may be norm, rather than the exception.
lakini hizo ARVs, huezi kuzikunywa ukose kidney, pancreas, liver, heart, brain issues...

@Cogito ergo sum what do you say hapa?
 
#8
Hizi ARVs zinafaa ku-investigatiwa. Tujue zo-usaidia, ama zo-uwaste watu.
The system nowadays is, ukipimwa, ukapitakana positve, unaekwa kwa ARVs straightaway.
Previously it was, ukifikia a certain level of CD4, unaekwa kwa ARVs.
Challenge is, unaeza pata mtu ako +ve siku nyingi, akunywangi hizo madawa, yet bado ako fit. researchers wanakuambia hao ni super-controllers. ati they are very few. yet in actual fact, the alleged super-controlling may be norm, rather than the exception.
lakini hizo ARVs, huezi kuzikunywa ukose kidney, pancreas, liver, heart, brain issues...
If super controllers were the norm, we would not have had over a million people dead before 1999, HIV would have not reached 14 percent of the Kenyan population and Uganda would not have had entire villages wiped out by the epidemic as was the case in the 1990s.
 

Yunomi

Village Elder
#9
If super controllers were the norm, we would not have had over a million people dead before 1999, HIV would have not reached 14 percent of the Kenyan population and Uganda would not have had entire villages wiped out by the epidemic as was the case in the 1990s.
Where do you get your figures from?
 

Yunomi

Village Elder
#11
Here.
It was around 14% in 1994-1995 and it started dropping from that point.
Some sites say 10% but fail to take into account that most people in the 90s were not aware of their status until they died. That is where the extra 4% comes from
The HIV AIDS rates in 2019 are below 5% in Kenya. I can produce many links to prove my stats.
I want you to provide just 1 link supporting your stats. Even if it's a blog.
 

Kicharo

Village Elder
#12
If super controllers were the norm, we would not have had over a million people dead before 1999, HIV would have not reached 14 percent of the Kenyan population and Uganda would not have had entire villages wiped out by the epidemic as was the case in the 1990s.
You see, my good friend, hiv death figures are very controversial. Every time a hiv +ve positive dies, it is recorded as a 'hiv death'. Yet perhaps what killed the nigger could have killed him with or without the virus. There are simply no figures on the numbers of people who have died specifically of hiv and who wouldn't have died (or at least wouldn't have died that soon) if they didn't have hiv. Truth is, at some point, people will come to see the need for independent research on hiv and aids.
 
#13
You see, my good friend, hiv death figures are very controversial. Every time a hiv +ve positive dies, it is recorded as a 'hiv death'. Yet perhaps what killed the nigger could have killed him with or without the virus. There are simply no figures on the numbers of people who have died specifically of hiv and who wouldn't have died (or at least wouldn't have died that soon) if they didn't have hiv. Truth is, at some point, people will come to see the need for independent research on hiv and aids.
The viral load is what is considered .Dude.
Even if the person had TB, If the viral load is low, it means he died of TB.
If the viral load is high, it means that the person died of AIDS as no matter what treatment they would have gotten, their immune system was gone and the body could not defend themselves from even death by the common cold.
Figures on death by HIV/AIDS are actually some of the most accurate as they are the easiest to obtain. Viruses can be detected even on fossils, leave alone the freshly dead.
 
#14
The HIV AIDS rates in 2019 are below 5% in Kenya. I can produce many links to prove my stats.
I want you to provide just 1 link supporting your stats. Even if it's a blog.
We are taliking of the claim Kicharo made, dude.Go back up the thread.
He claimed that Super-Controllers were probably the norm.I countered with the fact that Super-Controllers cannot be the norm because today, few people die of HIV yearly both in total figures and as a percentage of the population as opposed to the pre-ARV era when over a million people died in a span of around nine years and HIV rates peaked at 14 percent.
So the issue was not about stats .Please read a thread and find out what people are talking about.I was not even talking of HIV in any recent year dude.
 

Yunomi

Village Elder
#15
We are taliking of the claim Kicharo made, dude.Go back up the thread.
He claimed that Super-Controllers were probably the norm.I countered with the fact that Super-Controllers cannot be the norm because today, few people die of HIV yearly both in total figures and as a percentage of the population as opposed to the pre-ARV era when over a million people died in a span of around nine years and HIV rates peaked at 14 percent.
So the issue was not about stats .Please read a thread and find out what people are talking about.I was not even talking of HIV in any recent year dude.
Yeah but being factual is important. Under 5% is the rate
 

Kicharo

Village Elder
#16
The viral load is what is considered .Dude.
Even if the person had TB, If the viral load is low, it means he died of TB.
If the viral load is high, it means that the person died of AIDS as no matter what treatment they would have gotten, their immune system was gone and the body could not defend themselves from even death by the common cold.
Figures on death by HIV/AIDS are actually some of the most accurate as they are the easiest to obtain. Viruses can be detected even on fossils, leave alone the freshly dead.
To the best of my knowledge, viral load is not one of the things measured during postmortem. If a person was hiv +ve, and they die, it is automatically recorded as a hiv death. [By the way, the technology to measure viral load became locally available just the other day].
 

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