Boeing’s 737 MAX test flights starting soon

Amused

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Flight trials led by the Federal Aviation Administration of Boeing’s 737 MAX aircraft may begin this week, reports The Wall Street Journal, citing anonymous sources. The airplane has been grounded globally following two deadly crashes in less than a year. Meanwhile, Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg is at the Paris Airshow — aviation’s biggest yearly event — where he’s expected to answer questions on the safety record of what was once billed as its star aircraft. About 25% of American fliers would try to avoid flying on a MAX, according to a recent Wall Street Journal/ NBC News poll.
 

spear

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Boeing has really messed airlines that had the 737 MAX in their fleet. Parking them is a financial disaster. Worse are aircraft leasing companies that had 100's of them in stock. They are desperately moving to carriers that had previously ordered them not to cancel planned leased orders. They are offering them at a fraction of it previous leasing amount just to get them out there should a fix be found and they are allowed to fly. The fear is that its name and reputation has been soiled too much such that nobody will take them even if they get fixed. I have heard rumours of KQ been offered 30 Max planes for lease for the cost that would have previously be for 10 max planes only. Brand new planes for 33% of the previous price.
 

Nattydread

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I have heard rumours of KQ been offered 30 Max planes for lease for the cost that would have previously be for 10 max planes only. Brand new planes for 33% of the previous price.
Meaning that the lease prices were bloated to begin with.

A carrier with bargaining muscle should do man's 20% of the original rates, but who wants to risk flying with an injured albatross?
 

spear

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Meaning that the lease prices were bloated to begin with.

A carrier with bargaining muscle should do man's 20% of the original rates, but who wants to risk flying with an injured albatross?
Bloated I think not since they are in strong competition against airbus. I think 33% is better than total loss. Sooner or later this Boeing Max crash will start claiming casualties. I'm sure some airlines will go under courtesy of this mess like that Norway airline that exclusive 737 max fleet all grounded now for months. I wounded what will be Boeing lawsuits costs and the subsequent compensations.
 
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Bloated I think not since they are in strong competition against airbus. I think 33% is better than total loss. Sooner or later this Boeing Max crash will start claiming casualties. I'm sure some airlines will go under courtesy of this mess like that Norway airline that exclusive 737 max fleet all grounded now for months. I wounded what will be Boeing lawsuits costs and the subsequent compensations.
People will just have to fly them, there's no viable option. It's not easy replacing all the 737-MAXs on such short notice. In places like USA the airline industry is basically an oligopoly. Those airlines pretend to be competitors but somehow conspire to increase prices each year. Afadhali ata Kenya there are more options. Now this is what will happen: passengers who'll refuse to board these 737-MAXs will get thoroughly disorganized. They'll be told to pay more for alternative arrangements, which will be delayed for days to teach them a lesson. They'll fall in line soon enough. The only way this plane goes out of service in the US is if it causes another crash, and the entire world blacklists it. I foresee countries like China suspending it for longer and diversifying their suppliers.
Boeing is really pushing their luck, the more money they make the greedier they become. They have a very casual approach to safety. The other day pilots were grumbling about the Dreamliner's fire suppression system. Boeing admitted that the plane's fire suppression switch has failed "a small number of times", hehehe. One day they'll bite more than they can chew.
 

Nattydread

Village Chief
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Bloated I think not since they are in strong competition against airbus. I think 33% is better than total loss. Sooner or later this Boeing Max crash will start claiming casualties. I'm sure some airlines will go under courtesy of this mess like that Norway airline that exclusive 737 max fleet all grounded now for months. I wounded what will be Boeing lawsuits costs and the subsequent compensations.
They say that Boeing has such a war-chest that it had calculated the risks of a few disasters. Don't the buyers have the right to return defective materials and nullify contracts based on now proven dangers?

Pure greed, halafu the USA is not ashamed of attacking Huawel with all manner of unproven allegations:

Certification inquiry
The impetus for Boeing to build the 737 MAX was serious competition from the Airbus A320neo, which was a threat to win a major order for aircraft from American Airlines, a traditional customer for Boeing airplanes.[193] To avoid losing business, Boeing decided to update its venerable 737, rather than designing and building a brand-new airplane, which could take years longer. Boeing's goal was to ensure the 737 MAX would not need a new type rating, which would require significant additional pilot training, adding unacceptably to the overall cost of the airplane for customers. Boeing considered MCAS integral to the flight control system and did not include a description of the system in the flight manual, in keeping with the concept that the MAX was not a different type of airplane than the preceding version, the 737NG.[193]Chief executive Dai Whittingham of the independent trade group UK Flight Safety Committee disputed that idea, saying the 737 MAX "is a different body and aircraft but certifiers gave it the same type rating."[194]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX_groundings
 

Amused

Village Elder
#10
People will just have to fly them, there's no viable option. It's not easy replacing all the 737-MAXs on such short notice. In places like USA the airline industry is basically an oligopoly. Those airlines pretend to be competitors but somehow conspire to increase prices each year. Afadhali ata Kenya there are more options. Now this is what will happen: passengers who'll refuse to board these 737-MAXs will get thoroughly disorganized. They'll be told to pay more for alternative arrangements, which will be delayed for days to teach them a lesson. They'll fall in line soon enough. The only way this plane goes out of service in the US is if it causes another crash, and the entire world blacklists it. I foresee countries like China suspending it for longer and diversifying their suppliers.
Boeing is really pushing their luck, the more money they make the greedier they become. They have a very casual approach to safety. The other day pilots were grumbling about the Dreamliner's fire suppression system. Boeing admitted that the plane's fire suppression switch has failed "a small number of times", hehehe. One day they'll bite more than they can chew.
Kwanza you have to make your own bookings if you travel a lot to make sure they don't put you on a MAX. If you get to the gate and they've changed the plane, start praying. Or buy Tylenol PM.
 

Amused

Village Elder
#11
They say that Boeing has such a war-chest that it had calculated the risks of a few disasters. Don't the buyers have the right to return defective materials and nullify contracts based on now proven dangers?

Pure greed, halafu the USA is not ashamed of attacking Huawel with all manner of unproven allegations:

Certification inquiry
The impetus for Boeing to build the 737 MAX was serious competition from the Airbus A320neo, which was a threat to win a major order for aircraft from American Airlines, a traditional customer for Boeing airplanes.[193] To avoid losing business, Boeing decided to update its venerable 737, rather than designing and building a brand-new airplane, which could take years longer. Boeing's goal was to ensure the 737 MAX would not need a new type rating, which would require significant additional pilot training, adding unacceptably to the overall cost of the airplane for customers. Boeing considered MCAS integral to the flight control system and did not include a description of the system in the flight manual, in keeping with the concept that the MAX was not a different type of airplane than the preceding version, the 737NG.[193]Chief executive Dai Whittingham of the independent trade group UK Flight Safety Committee disputed that idea, saying the 737 MAX "is a different body and aircraft but certifiers gave it the same type rating."[194]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX_groundings
They started blaming the pilots before they were caught with those defective MCAS.
 

Amused

Village Elder
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Pure greed, halafu the USA is not ashamed of attacking Huawel with all manner of unproven allegations:
Huawei Technologies expects to take a $30 billion hit to revenue this year and next from U.S. sanctions, said its founder and CEO Ren Zhengfei. The Chinese telecoms giant is bracing for a 40% to 60% drop in global smartphone shipments, reported Bloomberg, citing anonymous sources, and last week canceled the launch of its new laptop due to restrictions by the Trump administration, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Meanwhile..

Tax money to save farmers
 
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