Finally, A Direct Salvo At JaKuon and NASA

[Nattydread]

The Institute for Democratic Governance wants the judges to determine whether they have the jurisdiction to hear and determine the petition and whether Nasa principals led by Mr Odinga committed electoral offences and engaged in serious electoral malpractices and/or irregularities.

The organisation further wants the court to determine if the public suffered loss and damage as a result of Nasa’s acts of violence and conduct.

It argues through lawyer Kioko Kilukumi that Nasa’s ‘irreducible minimums demands’ were unilaterally set with the intention of undermining the independence of the Commission.

VIOLENCE
The lawyer further says Mr Odinga, his running mate Kalonzo Musyoka, Musalia Mudavadi and Senators James Orengo (Siaya) and Moses Wetang’ula (Bungoma) were determined to ensure that the October 26 election did not take place.

“They led, engaged in and or facilitated violence, intimidation, hate speech and threats to voters and election officials, especially in the respondents’ strongholds.

"All this was aimed at instilling fear among voters in order to keep them away from voting.

"The activities orchestrated by the respondents were criminal in nature and in violation of the express provisions of the Election Offences Act, 2016,” the submissions filed in court read.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/politi...ECTION-victory/1064-4185688-cvsc35/index.html

 

[Kigui]

Lets see if they will be held liable. The last time I heard about them, they were ducking, hiding and sniggling under old ladies skirts. The very ladies supporters whose chupis they wanted bared in broad daylight. Lets see whether they claim it was 'spontaneous'

 

[Nattydread]

Lets see if they will be held liable. The last time I heard about them, they were ducking, hiding and sniggling under old ladies skirts. The very ladies supporters whose chupis they wanted bared in broad daylight. Lets see whether they claim it was 'spontaneous'

Spontaneous or not, we all witnessed their followers openly carrying out the 'no elections' directives. Ruth Odinga and that other fellow are now fugitives of the law having directly been involved in destruction of IEBC materials and terrorising electoral staff.

 

[Kigui]

Spontaneous or not, we all witnessed their followers openly carrying out the 'no elections' directives. Ruth Odinga and that other fellow are now fugitives of the law having directly been involved in destruction of IEBC materials and terrorising electoral staff.

I once read an argument that law should never allow you to benefit from an illegality that you created. Im not a lawyer, I look forward to hearing the best legal minds in Kenya argue it out. Im sure it will be discussed.

 

[Mjuaji]

Non-starter

 

[Simiyu22]

Wapi hedivence?

 

[Kigui]

Wapi hedivence?

Gani?

 

[Simiyu22]

Gani?

They led, engaged in and or facilitated violence, intimidation, hate speech and threats to voters and election officials.

 

[Amused]

The Institute for Democratic Governance wants the judges to determine whether they have the jurisdiction to hear and determine the petition and whether Nasa principals led by Mr Odinga committed electoral offences and engaged in serious electoral malpractices and/or irregularities.

The organisation further wants the court to determine if the public suffered loss and damage as a result of Nasa’s acts of violence and conduct.

It argues through lawyer Kioko Kilukumi that Nasa’s ‘irreducible minimums demands’ were unilaterally set with the intention of undermining the independence of the Commission.

VIOLENCE
The lawyer further says Mr Odinga, his running mate Kalonzo Musyoka, Musalia Mudavadi and Senators James Orengo (Siaya) and Moses Wetang’ula (Bungoma) were determined to ensure that the October 26 election did not take place.

“They led, engaged in and or facilitated violence, intimidation, hate speech and threats to voters and election officials, especially in the respondents’ strongholds.

"All this was aimed at instilling fear among voters in order to keep them away from voting.

"The activities orchestrated by the respondents were criminal in nature and in violation of the express provisions of the Election Offences Act, 2016,” the submissions filed in court read.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/politi...ECTION-victory/1064-4185688-cvsc35/index.html

Like most people, I’d like to see a court that finds guilty people guilty; not this nonsense of telling us “nataka nione chupi za kina mama” doesn’t actually mean what we know it means. Given the Magara Court though, they’ll insult our intelligence again.

 

[Amused]

Spontaneous or not, we all witnessed their followers openly carrying out the 'no elections' directives. Ruth Odinga and that other fellow are now fugitives of the law having directly been involved in destruction of IEBC materials and terrorising electoral staff.

We probably need to get angry at the police too. Why is this shrew not behind bars?

 

[Kigui]

They led, engaged in and or facilitated violence, intimidation, hate speech and threats to voters and election officials.

You probably have your head very deeply engorged in the shifting sand tunes that is the rear end of NASA campaigns. I fail to understand how you can't understand that NASA actively prevented elections from happening in Luo Nyanza. Ama unataka diagrams?

 

[Simiyu22]

You probably have your head very deeply engorged in the shifting sand tunes that is the rear end of NASA campaigns. I fail to understand how you can't understand that NASA actively prevented elections from happening in Luo Nyanza. Ama unataka diagrams?

Individuals have been charged separately. Not NASA. NASA can argue they did it on their own accord.

 

[Amused]

They led, engaged in and or facilitated violence, intimidation, hate speech and threats to voters and election officials.

Do you want it in gunias or wheelbarrows?

 

[Simiyu22]

Do you want it in gunias or wheelbarrows?

Both. Lets see what you got.

 

[Kigui]

Individuals have been charged separately. Not NASA. NASA can argue they did it on their own accord.

I was actually concerned about your association with that organization. I was concerned that your following that organization belittles your mental faculties. Democracy is a fairly simple concept to understand. NASA(scientific) does far more complicated things.

 

[Amused]

Both. Lets see what you got.

Then show up in court.

 

[0%_Omera]

Jubilee should see to it, that, these allegations, bring to an end, political snd professional careers, of some individuals in .ke.
Jimmy Orengo, aka the walking constitution, should not be able to practice Law, or hold any elective post, after the dust settles down.
I hope, that's what's is in store for them. Wapi @spear.

 

[Simiyu22]

I was actually concerned about your association with that organization. I was concerned that your following that organization belittles your mental faculties. Democracy is a fairly simple concept to understand. NASA(scientific) does far more complicated things.

State your point sir. Outside the hyperbole.

 

[Kigui]

State your point sir. Outside the hyperbole.

I'm concerned that you believe everything that NASA(political) is saying. Many of their minions believe we didn't go and vote on 8/8 and 26/10. Many minions believe it was somehow conjured. You need to believe that yours faithfully did it and will do it again. Just convince your candidate to convince me that I should support him.

 

[Simiyu22]

I'm concerned that you believe everything that NASA(political) is saying. Many of their minions believe we didn't go and vote on 8/8 and 26/10. Many minions believe it was somehow conjured. You need to believe that yours faithfully did it and will do it again. Just convince your candidate to convince me that I should support him.

I don't believe anything a politician says. And it was pretty obvious that NASA would loose. That's why their supporters did not bother to vote. My only argument in this thread is, you can prosecute individuals in piecemeal but not from the whole party downwards is problematic.