Very enlightening
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Ephesians 4:30 says, “and do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.”
You see? Sealed for the day of redemption. Sorry but no thanks, I cannot stomach anything that tries to plant seeds of doubt in my faith which then grieves the Holy Spirit. Coz I’m sealed with the seal of God, my faith and redemption are both sealed and complete ready for rapture time. Also in the Bible it says, “Let him that is filthy be filthy still and him that is righteous remain righteous.” That’s where we are heading now, where you will remain as you are.
the pretribulation rapture doctrine was introduced by a guy called John Nelson Darby in 1827
before then , no such word existed in the christian vocabulary
we need to ask ourselves
was everyone before Nelson Darby read the bible wrong
or was Nelson Darby indeed wrong with his interpretation ?
Very interesting. I also recanted a pre-trib rapture. The bible shows the resurrection of the saints (the first resurrection) happens at the second coming of Christ. I once had a similar discussion here. It’s troubling, but the Church is ill-prepared for persecution under the anti-Christ.
The only verse that I’m still unable to contextualize is the promise that the Lord went to prepare a place and he’ll come and get the saints when the mansions are ready.
Maajabu haya!
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"…Let him that is filthy be filthy still and him that is righteous remain righteous…”
But of all sites you could moderate you chose this one, yes?
Testing belief by scripture can never grieve the Holy Spirit. Paul celebrated the Berean Church for the same. I also disagree that the belief in either pre-trib, post-trib, or any other thing eschatological position affects salvation. The core of salvation is that Christ is God, and he came in the flesh, and was resurrected after three days. We can disagree on many things but still hold the core to be true.
Give the video a listen. It’s a biblical discussion. If you are to disagree with it, disagree with it because it contradicts scripture, not because of anything else. We must hold scripture with enough esteem to adjust our beliefs if and when they can be demonstrated to contradict scripture.
It’s a very respectful opinion my sister, no ill intended. I have deep respect for your faith, very few (me included) are as consistent with Christ-like behavior in this our village here… The village has brought out the worst in me a few times:(
To her credit, she’s very polite and selective in the threads she comments in. I’ve never seen her get vulgar or abusive… very uncharacteristic for a villager here. Then again, she moderates, you post… don’t set standards you yourself aren’t upholding.
We might differ in pre or post-tribulation but our common theme will always be Jesus. He is all that really matters. There will be a mini tribulation which I believe we are warming up to presently, and will only get worse. However the Great Tribulation is not for the bride. As you may recall, we had this discussion in great detail…The foolish virgin church will go through the great tribulation but not the wise virgin bride. No sir!
Either which way, the church should keep holy. Pray especially for the unity of the Church. While praying over the matter I told you, I was directed to pray for a revival of love. Love must be restored in the Church first, unity will follow, and then a grand outpouring of power. May the Holy Spirit fill our hearts with love, as per Romans 5:5
Yes, exactly right. That’s what our pastor has been harping on lately. Love and letting go of selfish behaviors. You know how sometimes you just feel so weary at the condition and hopelessness of this world. And start wishing Jesus can come back this very moment because we are so tired. Our precious brother then said there won’t be this mysterious mighty revelation that will drop the quickening power for the rapture. Like, will the bride all over the world read something in the Bible then in an instant be unified in spirit and transformed? How are we going to get out of here for the rapture? Perfect love is that quickening power. It’s so simple—LOVE.
The day the bride learns to put God first, then our fellow man and ourselves last is when we’ll finally be ready to get out of here.
the day is 31st August 2020
and who will go to Heaven and who to Hell?
I guess time will tell.
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I believe in the rapture, but there is one thing you should ask yourself, are you really prepared for His coming? If not then you have to be born again. Then you have to learn how to live in christ, this means, putting God first, then other people, have the heart of a servant . Because you cannot hate someone then you say you love God. Another thing, we should not live for ourselves, offer your life to the service of otherrs, feed the poor, help the hopeless.
The coming of the lord is near, there is alot happening in the spirit realm
so all those who practice what you’ve stated and arent born again are going to hell, and all those who are born again and don’t practice are also going to hell?
There is alot more that surrounds love, i have only listed a few. Yes, you have to be born again to inherit the kindgom of God, otherwise why did God send His son to die on the cross?
And even if you are born again, it doesn’t give you the license to continue being “wordly” .
ok.
and whats being worldly or living in sin as it is said?
living in sin, christians Should not have this kind of pleasure, remember the joy of the Lord is our strength.
For example a born again Christian who still leads a life of prostitution to earn a living.
religion and ticket to Heaven is very tricky.
the churches should have very clear teachings on this, otherwise, many Christians who are born again and think are going to Heaven might miss out.
Just develop a close relationship with Jesus, let the holy spirit guide you. Know God’s will for your life
I feel encouraged! The hypocrisy in today’s church is staggering. If you want to take your relationship with God to the next level, take your relationship with man to the next level. You don’t love God if you don’t love your neighbor.
The command is clear, love as I have loved you. I fear for the Church in this regard. We are an unforgiving, gossipy, judgemental lot. I and my brothers and sisters… God help us.