IRS guard holds deputy at gunpoint

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#4
I am 50/50. The IRS guard is right when he says that the officer cannot enter the premise while off duty. However that premise is a government facility and so they may permit armed police officers off duty. ( I don’t know this but I suspect).
However the guard does not have power to point his weapon at the officer when he is not in imminent danger. The license to carry is for self defense.
 
#5
What was sad is that the 911 call simply reported an armed black man was in the premises

I don't see anything wrong with a police officer in full uniform and a badge entering a government office with his service revolver in its holster. The guard on duty drew a gun on him when he was on his way out after being denied entry. All that drama by the guard was unhinged behavior
 

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#7
What was sad is that the 911 call simply reported an armed black man was in the premises

I don't see anything wrong with a police officer in full uniform and a badge entering a government office with his service revolver in its holster. The guard on duty drew a gun on him when he was on his way out after being denied entry. All that drama by the guard was unhinged behavior
It’s actually a principle legal issue here first. Since many people are licensed to carry firearms in the US, it’s illegal to go into government buildings with them. In fact all government buildings have a sign at the entrance stating so.

Now a police officer has deputizing powers when on the job. When he gets off work, his legal powers are reduced to that of a civilian.

Now pointing a gun at a uniformed officer is a whole other issue.
 
#9
It’s actually a principle legal issue here first. Since many people are licensed to carry firearms in the US, it’s illegal to go into government buildings with them. In fact all government buildings have a sign at the entrance stating so.

Now a police officer has deputizing powers when on the job. When he gets off work, his legal powers are reduced to that of a civilian.

Now pointing a gun at a uniformed officer is a whole other issue.
But you have to wonder, if it was a white deputy, would the IRS guard still be as aggressive? The black guy claims he's been to the building before with a guard while performing his personal duties. So it's not improbable that other officers have done the same thing before. Is it by coincidence that the guard chose to enforce the law when a black deputy walked in?

Alafu if an off-duty officer is still allowed in his uniform, is the gun part of that uniform? The IRS complicates matters further by not offering any temporary safekeeping for guns.
 

ZaraYaqob

Village Elder
#10
The black cop is not off-duty, he just went to run some personal errands while on-duty in full uniform so he wasn't a civilian at that time and is not required to put away his firearm, i think. biggest mistake the guard made was pulling a gun out on an officer i wonder what would've happened if the officer retaliated by pulling his gun too and perhaps shoot or get shot by the guard cause the white cop said he would've pulled his gun as well.
 

IsMundu

Village Elder
#12
The black cop is not off-duty, he just went to run some personal errands while on-duty in full uniform so he wasn't a civilian at that time and is not required to put away his firearm, i think. biggest mistake the guard made was pulling a gun out on an officer i wonder what would've happened if the officer retaliated by pulling his gun too and perhaps shoot or get shot by the guard cause the white cop said he would've pulled his gun as well.
Even if he was, he was walking away.
 
#13
The US is a great country that lots of people want to even just visit. But too may simple things are complicated by race issues. Even simple things such as a black police officer walking in FULL uniform and a gun into a government office.

But you have not seen anti-black racism until you visit the Dominican Republic, Brazil, parts of India and parts of the Arabian peninsula
 

Top