It’s a common debate n I wish to ask why do we suffer , die, in most disgusting ways if there is God ?
What do you want Him to do? Is He the one killing you or is it your fellow human beings?
Look, that’s a usually dumb question.
a man who has set his mind on God and serves Him only, rather than living a selfish extravagant life, does not suffer, neither does evil touch him.
on the other hand, a man who is far away from God, even God is far away from him. these are the types that through seeing with the fever of the flesh and its desire, deem full of every delight and comfort and so waste their lives in pursuit of illusions. that is why they suffer and die in most disgusting ways…because they have rejected God in their hearts, even though they claim to worship God
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He claims he works for God, ask him.
Ummmm no. This is not true. in the dark ages people were burnt at the stake. Peter was crucified upside down. Paul, I can’t even list because it is too long.
Hugh Hefner died in his sleep. Nice and peaceful. Belief and serviing God does not determine how you die.
this one is a fraudster. 20 seconds in and i turned it off.
i was not explaining how people die…but why there are suffering and disgusting deaths
Still. That has nothing to do with your belief and serving God. Nothing at all.
believe what you must. we sick and tired of this question everytime
unaongea mingi mzee…
the guy wanted to know why people suffer and die disgustingly, not about the belief or service of God
but in your post you equated belief and serving God with dying nicely.
“a man who has set his mind on God and serves Him only, rather than living a selfish extravagant life, does not suffer, neither does evil touch him. "
" that is why they suffer and die in most disgusting ways…because they have rejected God in their hearts, even though they claim to worship God”
Those are your words
"Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all. " Pslams 34
“All things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just man that perisheth in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongeth his life in his wickedness.” Ecc 7.
These are of the Bible.
You cannot equate them. People will die how they die regardless of how they live. The question should be, did they die in Christ?
I guess you have concluded that there is no God but I will help you .God exists in your head.
thread closed then
Agreed!
God is there for us all. He lives eternally but our minds and bodies are too small to perceive him!
Here’s God in all of us:
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haha this is the mind you are talking about
You are shooting yourself in the foot. How can a mind so small to perceive ‘it’ be sure that the “it” exists as how they think/perceive it to be.
Hmn. You cannot use what you know-“the known” to interpret the unknown - “what you don’t know”. It’s like using a lens. You will be comparing the unknown in terms of what you know. But if the known ceases to be then the unknown becomes.
An abstract analogy : The seed (when planted) dies underneath the ground /ceases to be aka gives its own life for life to be. For what was unknown to be (the plant) the seed had to die. Kama unaweza elewa hio you will start understanding where the Jesus concept came from…
Eventually boils down to the SUN that gives out its own energy for life to be. (The son who died IS a pun)
Agreed!
Yawa! VERBIAGE!
I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about. Jesus is not a concept. He is real. There’s your first truth.
“But if the known ceases to be then the unknown becomes.” Taking this to the abstract, are you saying that “ignorance” becomes when “knowledge” dies? That would assume zero knowledge transfer, and that would be impossible. (I’ve changed your terms for clarity). Is that it?
“Eventually boils down to the SUN that gives out its own energy for life to be. (The son who died IS a pun)” Don’t watch the Secret and Zeitgeist. They’ll only confuse you more with their reasoning.