Jehovah Witnesses are terrorists

They use threats of suffering and damnation to achieve their agenda. Fact.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xE98kOKgBw

  1. some people like the ninja up here like playing victims. Good for him, 6 years for peddling fear and threats in the name of religion : “Join us or face eternal damnation”, GTFOH blyat
  2. They don’t recognize state authority, GTFOH blyat
  3. They crawl up on you in your house with loads of printed shitty propaganda in an attempt to get you to sign up
  4. In some preaching in Bahamas, the leader told listeners that they deserve to suffer if they don’t sign up to the organization.
  5. Once a Jehovah witness, if you try to abandon the org, your family is advised to shun you and treat you like a stranger.

Verdict : Russia is right, Lock those blyats up.
Always peddling lies and fake news,

No one can stop the ‘light.’ Right now it’s shining brightly over China and Russia.

Mark 13:8-11

  1. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

  2. But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

  3. And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

  4. But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

These fuckers…They crawl up on you in your house with loads of printed shitty propaganda in an attempt to get you to sign up

Sawa, but it’s against human rights to counter non hateful speech with violence. Russian leaders fear what Christianity would do to their country is why they are acting all paranoid. But the more they arrest them, the more they’re drawing attention and publicity.

You are right, but again this is just like those extrimist muslims who through fear intimidate you to join jihad.

All I see is threats.
Whenever I see a threat, I yawn.
I’d actually consider signing up if you could convince me without throwing in a single threat

Not even close to extremist Muslims. JW’s don’t threaten anyone with immediate bodily harm, what they do is quote teachings from the Bible.

Sema ukweli… their bible

50% of Russians are Christians

The Russian Orthodox Church is a political outfit that enjoys largesse and feeds into the people’s sense of national identity. The reason Putin is clamping hard on non-Orthodox Christians is because he fears competition. 71% of Russians identify as Orthodox Christians, hence Putin has tailored that church to serve his interests as a tool of mind control. As we speak, there’s massive legal restrictions on sharing anything Christian related in Russia, and widespread persecution of non-Orthodox Christians.

[SIZE=7]Putin’s Untold War on Christianity[/SIZE]
When will the world start taking Vladimir Putin’s unprecedented crackdown on religious freedom seriously?

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Let’s start with the basics.

If you are a Russian citizen in 2018, it is currently illegal for you to share the Gospel with a friend in your home. It’s illegal for you to invite others to your church. VKontakte— the Russian equivalent of Facebook—can’t be used to spread anything that might be considered “evangelism.” In fact, all religious dialogue has been banned outside of churches and other religious sites.

On the street. Online. Even in your own home.

This is not the most recent or even most brazen of Russia’s recent attempts to curtail religious freedom within its borders, but it is illustrative of the Kremlin’s new attitude toward religion. The Russian Orthodox Church is deeply intertwined with Russian identity, closely connected to national politics and given broad legal preference over minority religions in the country. While the Soviet Union famously attempted to stamp religion out completely, Russian President Vladimir Putin has embraced the Russian Orthodox Church and, critics say, trans- formed it into another arm of his infamous propaganda machine.

By granting it liberties either restricted or flat out denied to other religions and sects, there is strong suspicion Putin has embraced the state church solely because he’s able to remake it in his own likeness.

But how did we get here? How did a country that seemed to be bucking decades of Orwellian control slip back into authoritarianism, and why haven’t more churches in the West spoken up on behalf of their fellow Christians abroad?

The answers are twisted up in a murky web of politics, nationalism, Putin’s aforementioned knack for propaganda and a healthy dose of good, old-fashioned fake news. But as Russia’s aims become clearer and the fortunes of its religious minorities less certain, experts are saying it’s imperative for Christians—and fans of religious liberty in general—to start paying attention to what’s going on. And, they caution, what’s happening in Russia could happen elsewhere.

It already is, if you know where to look.

[SIZE=5]THE LAW OF THE LAND[/SIZE]

In the early summer of 2016, Russia passed a little-noticed pair of laws broadly billed as “an- ti-terrorism” in their nature and intent.
The laws became known as the Yarovaya Law, named for Irina Yarovaya, the hawkish head of the Parliamentary Committee for Security and Anti-Corruption. The laws increased the scope of Russia’s already vast law enforcement agencies, expanding their legal surveillance capabilities and data mining operations.

Those measures were concerning enough, reportedly causing discomfort even among the Putin-friendly parliament. But they were able to pass a vote, riding on a wave of national unease after ISIS downed a Russian commercial plane over Egypt in 2015.

Tacked onto the Yarovaya Law was the provi- sion against evangelism or “missionary work” outside of specific, designated spaces. The law defined missionary activity as: “The activity of a religious association, aimed at disseminating information about its beliefs among people who are not participants (members, followers) in that religious association.”

“It would be fair to say that various actors have been seeking for quite a long time to get some so-called ‘anti-missionary’ package through and that this turned out to be the convenient way of pushing it through,” John Kinahan says.

Kinahan is the chief editor at Forum 18, an organization that monitors religious freedom in countries like Russia, Belarus and some central Asian countries. In his view, the Yarovaya Law is a significant step in a slow, steady trend toward the complete restriction of religious freedom.

“Putin is clearly not somebody very comfort- able with people using their freedom,” Kinahan says. “And given the legislative moves that he’s made, given the actions of state officials, not only racial freedom and religious belief but other human rights too, it’s very hard to come to any other conclusion.”
Organizations found in violation of the law can be fined up to a million rubles, roughly $17,000.
The government’s newly heightened surveillance capabilities drew the bulk of what little international attention was paid to the passage of the laws. The passage of new laws against missionary work did not even warrant mentions in write-ups from The Economist or Reuters.

Some of the indifference can be attributed to the lack of a vocal minority in Russia to sound the alarm. Estimates vary since there is no official census of religion in Russia, but the most recent Pew Research Center study found that 71 percent of Russians consider themselves Eastern Orthodox and another 15 percent say they’re “religiously unaffiliated,” meaning atheist, agnostic or “spiritual but not religious.” Between 8 and 10 percent consider themselves Muslim, with the rest affiliated with some other religion.

Religious minorities did attempt a campaign to change Putin’s mind. Head of the Advisory Council of the Heads of Protestant Churches in Russia, Sergei Ryakhovsky, posted a letter to Putin that read, in part:

“The obligation on every believer to have a special permit to spread his or her beliefs, as well as hand out religious literature and material outside of places of worship and used structures is not only absurd and offensive, but also creates the basis for mass persecution of believers for violating these provisions.”

The letter ended: “Vladimir Vladimirovich [Pu- tin], on behalf of thousands of evangelical Protestants, we ask you not to allow this repressive and unconstitutional law to be adopted.”

The protests on behalf of religious minorities were sincere, but had even less visible of a presence than protests focusing on the Yarovaya Law’s digital surveillance legislation. And they’ve had just as much an impact. That is to say: none.

https://relevantmagazine.com/feature/putins-untold-war-on-christianity/

[SIZE=7]Facing religious persecution in Russia, Jehovah’s Witnesses find refuge in Finland[/SIZE]
By SABRA AYRES
AUG 03, 2018 | 3:00 AM
KONNUNSUO, FINLAND
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On Thursdays and Sundays, a van arrives near an old prison to take the Jehovah’s Witnesses to worship in a Kingdom Hall about six miles away. The irony is palpable: The Finnish prison and its surrounding workers’ cottages are serving as a temporary home for people fleeing persecution — and possible prison terms — at home in Russia.
The van winds its way along a scenic road toward the little town of Joutseno, past farmhouses and vacation cottages that draw tourists to this part of Finland’s southern lake country each summer.

Last year, the church in Joutseno started conducting services in Russian to accommodate the growing population of asylum-seekers. Jehovah’s Witnesses, a Christian denomination started in the United States in the 19th century, are now banned in Russia.

“When we arrived at the hall for the first time, we cried because we could freely sing our songs and pray,” said Alina, 35, who fled with her husband in May from Orenburg, a Russian city about 900 miles southeast of Moscow, near the border with Kazakhstan. They asked that their last name not be used out of fear for relatives left behind in Russia.

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[SIZE=2]Daniel, 34, and Alina, 35, both from Orenburg, Russia, sit in their room at a refugee center in Konnunsuo, Finland. The couple are Jehovaha’s Witnesses seeking asylum in Finland because of religious persecution in their homeland. (Vasiliy Kolotilov / For the Los Angeles Times)[/SIZE]

“Right now, to be a Jehovah’s Witness is a crime in Russia,” she said. “You’re considered like a terrorist.”

In the 16 months since Russia’s Supreme Court banned Jehovah’s Witnesses as an extremist group on par with Islamic State, raids and arrests of the religion’s estimated 175,000 members in the country have increased rapidly. The ruling criminalized practicing the religion and ordered its 395 branches closed. Members face prosecution for doing missionary work, a fundamental part of the faith.

There are now an estimated 250 Russian Jehovah’s Witnesses seeking asylum in Finland. They wait out their asylum applications in several refugee centers across the country, including the Joutseno refugee center outside Lappeenranta in southeastern Finland.

The center has about 80 Jehovah’s Witness families from Russia.

What’s happening to the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia is “easily the worst attack on religious freedom in post-Soviet Russia,” said Geraldine Fagan, who spent more than a decade in Russia documenting religious affairs. She is the author of "Believing in Russia: Religious Policy after Communism.”

Alina and Daniel, 34, left Russia on May 18, two days after a team of heavily armed and masked police raided their family home in Orenburg. On that day, the couple hid on the second floor as the police ransacked the house, taking computers, cellphones, passports, credit cards and other items.
“They didn’t come to investigate; it was a real manhunt,” Alina said.

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[SIZE=1]Anya Kotelnikova, left, Alin Tovmasian, 35, center, and Sergei Kotelnikov, 31, with his daughter, Emily, gather in the kitchen of a cottage at a refugee center in Konnunsuo, Finland. (Vasiliy Kolotilov / For the Los Angeles Times)[/SIZE]

Alin and Yulia Tovmasian say they were harassed and threatened by a neighbor. One day, they said, the man attacked Alin Tovmasian with a knife. The couple called the police, who said there was no evidence of a criminal offense, Yulia Tovmasian said.

“Based on what’s going on now, even if legally they would allow us to live free again, the atmosphere will stay the same,” Yulia said. “People will continue to hate Jehovah’s Witnesses because this attitude is coming from the top.”

Jehovah’s Witnesses have been in Russia for more than 100 years. During Soviet times, they were persecuted by the Communist state and thrown in prison camps as spies or for refusing to enter the military. Jehovah’s Witnesses are opposed to military service, and discourage voting, participation in patriotic activities and flags.

The crackdown now “does coincide with this revitalization of traditional values in other ways we’ve seen in Russian politics, and with the reemergence and reestablishment of the Russian [Orthodox] Church’s influence in Russian society and Russian politics,” said Rachel Denber, deputy Europe and Central Asia director at Human Rights Watch.

The Russian Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, but emphasizes four traditional faiths — Christianity, Judaism, Islam and Buddhism. About 70% of Russians adhere to the Russian Orthodox Church, which is recognized by law as having a special status.

During his 19 years of rule as president or prime minister, Vladimir Putin has publicly courted a closer relationship with the Orthodox Church as a defining aspect of Russian identity. Experts have suggested that the Orthodox Church sees Jehovah’s Witnesses’ door-to-door preaching as competition.

Other faiths have come under pressure in recent years, including Pentecostals, Seventh-day Adventists, Hare Krishnas, and others. Despite their constitutional status, Muslims have been subjected to discrimination, according to the U.S. State Department’s latest survey of international religious freedom.

In 2016, Russia passed a vaguely worded anti-extremist law known as the Yarovaya law. The law established the premise for the ban of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

“The legal reasoning in the court ruling was that the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization asserts this supremacy of their interpretation of the Bible and the superiority of their religion over others,” Denber said. “But find me a religion that doesn’t do that.”

The Jehovah’s Witnesses have appealed Russia’s ruling to the European Court of Human Rights.
Sergei Kotelnikov, 31, fled northern Russia with his wife, Anya, 18 months ago. In the Tovmasians’ kitchen, Kotelnikov explains how neighbors in Russia called the police and the Federal Security Service, the main successor to the KGB, while his local congregation was holding a gathering. Anya, 28, was pregnant at the time. They decided to go to neighboring Finland.

“We realized that we would end up staying in a refugee camp, but we had no other options,” he said. Their daughter, Emily, was born five months after they arrived.

International pressure is mounting on Russia to reverse its ban. President Trump did not raise the issue with Putin during their summit in Helsinki, the Finnish capital, last month, but Vice President Mike Pence mentioned it at a White-House-organized gathering to advance religious freedom in June.
The Kremlin has distanced itself from the court’s ruling, saying it cannot interfere in an independent court’s decision.

“We would like Russia to have freedom in the full sense of the term,” Yulia Tovmasian said. “We have a constitution in Russia, but it turns out it’s not taken into consideration.”

https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-russia-jehovahs-witnesses-2018-story.html

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They’re still Christians. What’s your point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bf4T9qsEC0

Only Jehovah witnesses are having issues in Russia. Because of the weird nature of their doctrine and their weird characters. In a place where Muslims have managed to exist for years, trust me, you need to have some very serious issues to make the Russian authorities wary of you.

religion is mental slavery, we ought to be free spiritualy

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