Jana was having a drink with a buddy I grew up with and he mentioned the dilema that he and his brothers are facing. Apparently alot of siblings with inherited property are also facing this.
Background story
The guys oldman passed on some time back and left behind a property in kileleshwa among other places. The siblings decided to put up rental apartments and they contracted a lawyer and architect among others. Somewhere along the way, they disagreed with the contractor over the work he is doing and the lawyer suggested that they take him to court. And thats where their problems begun.
Since most kenyans are laymen when it comes to the law, the lawyer aliwachesa vibaya sana and am not sure how he pulled it off, but they ended up losing the property. The matter is still in court but the property is finished and someone is collecting rent (not them) and the guy reckons the judge appears to be in on it cause the court case keeps been postponed for years.
Wadau, does anyone know a decent lawyer in this Nairobi? Have you ever dealt with a lawyer who you found to be above board especially in matters where property worth hundreds of millions is involved? Please post that lawyers contact here nisaidie huyu jamaa…
I know of some assassins. Anyway in such cases, hakuna mahali sheria ita saidia your friend. Its a huge cartel from the land registry guys to the lawyer to cops to judges.
They knew your friends were pussies that is why they dared to grab their property.
How it works is that you escalate kistreet. Violence and family become legitimate means in the quest to get your property back. No one should enjoy your sweat at your expense.
I didnt go into detail on that but he says the work they were doing was substandard. I was more interested in trying to learn how exactly the lawyer managed to play them
Nimeskia watu wengi sana have been shafted by developers in those high end areas. Most hukuwa ile partnership. You own the land, but huna pesa ya kujenga. Developer approaches you with a very lopesided agreement and awesome computer renders anakwambia kazi yako once you surrender the land ni kurelax and get X number of apartments in the completed project. Once you sign, you are fucked. Smart people wenye wanataka rentals huuza the land and do a complete project in eastlands etc where pesa ya upmarket land itakuwa enough kubuy land na kujenga.
For this case maybe Teddy should shed some light about what exactly happened juu so far hatujui.
I know a case where this aprtment-for-property actually worked. A father in another family I knew died. He was a former high ranking civil servant and had a house in kileleshwa but no business. When he was around he said he is never moving out of that house. He was generally aging, broke and down on his luck.
When he passed, the family quickly did a deal with a developer whereby they were given 3 apartments in kileleshwa and a monetary payment in exchange for the kileleshwa house. So 2 sons got an apartment each and the mother also got one. One of the sons passed (guy liked booze too much) but the other moved into the mothers apartment and rents his out for like 80k pm. He is happy and doesnt even work. He just waits for the rent and boozes with his kunguru.
So sometimes these deals can work. I guess its a matter of getting the right partner.
What you just described doesn’t sound like a joint venture. The people you described were paid in full for their property, with cash and apartments. So, it was a part-cash, part-barter trade agreement. Not a joint venture if I understood you correctly.
In a joint venture, the land owner gets apartments in the completed project which is carried out on his/her land, not in a separate project. He exchanges his land for apartments in the completed project, not for apartments elsewhere.
Yes, not precisely a joint venture but the similarities are there. Instead of opting for a joint venture, they decided to take already built apartments instead. Still the opportunity for them to have been played was there. The first family I described was literally kicked out with nothing
Land usually comprises 20 to 30 % of the value of the project so that is what most people get.
Not a bad deal if executed well with the right developer.
If you disinherit Sambamba or take away what is rightfully mine, you and your family will not enjoy the wealth.
I will not use the system that you have infiltrated and corrupted to try and get justice.
Aaaaand it is not you who will decide how it will escalate.
Depends on the nature of the case and the value of the property and also how they were screwed.
They need a lawyer who handles land matters , conveyance, then get a brief of what the real legal situation is. I’ve used Kibatia and company they never let me down.
mnakuaga na ujinga saa zengine. what would it cost to hire a few vijana wa odi and unleash them on the architect and the greedy lawyer?
why go to court when there are alternative dispute resolution mechanisms? tuanga mtu panga mbili. kidnap mtoto akitoka shule uache yeye uko magadi. lipa shoga afunze mtu adabu.
in the grave where we are all going there are no rentals. collect rent while alive. become a landlord while alive