Mheshima Mbunge Mpig

Meria Mata

Elder Statesman
#22
He has not told us what else they do for the good of the constituencies. Ooops he has failed to mention how hard they work to make sure that when the Gavana says jump, they jump kama Masaai morans. This role should be abolished along with the women rep one.
Ni ukweli tulirogwa. Wooooi.
na mrogi akaenda wa?
 
K

Kimakia

Guest
#29
#STOLEN

I have interacted very closely with several MPs. So let me teach you what you didn't know about the financial life of an MP.

A Kenyan MP receives a minimum of 20 invitations to his/her Constituency every week. Simple math, minimum of 80 invitations in a month.
In each of these invitations, this MP will budget a minimum of 5,000, averagely. Definitely he/she will contribute even more in some cases. So we are talking about a minimum of 400,000 in a month.

Mark you, the figure above will double if this besieged MP chooses to deliver it personally to the village. Because he/she must take care of Jeshi, and handouts for Jeshi doesn't come cheap.
I know some of you are preparing to ask whether lazima MP apeane handouts. And the answer is YES, hapa Kenya lazima MP apeane handouts. Because Wanjikū must DEMAND it. The moment an MP refuses to give handouts, that's the end of him/her.
In simple language therefore, an MP will spend a minimum of 800,000 in the Constituency PER MONTH.
It's noteworthy that your MP earns about a million shillings in a month.
This MP has a family, just like you and I, has a personal life too, just like you and I. But his/her entire earnings goes to the electorate.
I'm only saying that the next time you find your MP in a hotel, lipia yeye hiyo breakfast before you leave.

We have known the excuse since time immemorial, some use that as an excuse but never attend such functions, they only attend a selected few which obviously have a trickle back effect to them. They don't respond positively to all the invites. Having said that, the culture of mwananchi depending on freebies, harambees, and other handouts should slowly start being demonized.
An MP, Kanjora.Gavana are supposed to push for a piece of the national cake and take development to the grassroots. Some of these leaders are already doing so and amidst all the politics we are at least seeing some counties start to develop.
So this issue of using mwananchi as a scapegoat so that the MPs can continue lumping allowances on themselves is a non-issue, it should not arise at all at any discussion. Central governement should be pushed to devolve the funds of course according to county population, from where MPs can push for developments, prioritizing the most urgent projects first.
Contributing at a function should be self-driven,the constituent should be
 

FieldMarshal CouchP

The Oracle of Ndeiya
#30
I know of mps who don't give hand outs at all but their development records ensures they get re-elected.
Thank you sir. I honestly think you are one of the few pillars of intelligence here.

Having said that, let me tell you a story. Believe it or not not, I have vied for an MP's seat. I had come from a blue-chip company at the time and thought I should go mashinani to make a difference.

In all my working years, I had never seen the greed I saw in the electorate when I vied. At just 37, I was expected to repair roads, attend all church harambees (about 15 per Sunday), funerals, marriages, cd launches, hospital bills, you name it.

I lost a cool Sh5m in six months and didn't get elected. I was no.3 out of 20.

What am I saying? Kenyans are the most duplicious, phony and hypocritical idiots you'll ever meet. On the one hand they want good gavament but on the other they ALL want handouts from politicians. How can a simple Mp meet the funeral, marriage, school fees etc etc etc needs of a constituency of 200,000 people?

I have 2 MPs and 3 MCAS who are related to me, and when I say related am not saying it in the Luhya sense. I mean RELATED.

All say they will not vie again. Nobody will believe me, but MPs are having it rough. The guys who are making money are the MCAs, and the county administration.

My point? The BS propagated by the media is just that, BS. Parliament accounts for less that 5% per cent of national budget. Go figure............
 

FieldMarshal CouchP

The Oracle of Ndeiya
#31
If they concentrate on development and making systems efficient, there will be no one to look for handouts.
Instead they loot all projects and initiate white elephant projects.
Stupid rubbish. YOU BABOONS GIVE BIRTH LIKE RATS AND EXPECT EVERYBODY ELSE TO MOP UP YOUR SHIT. WHEN THEY DON'T YOU BLAME EVERYBODY BUT YOURSELVES........................
 
#33
All say they will not vie again. Nobody will believe me, but MPs are having it rough.
Your relatives WILL vie again. I'm yet to see an MP who doesn't seek re-election, unless it's for health reasons. After all that so-called torture, why do they still stand? It's stupid to keep doing something that keeps depleting your funds, so why do it? Because they can get "soda" to "facilitate" access to more powerful politicians like the president, receive bribes to pass or block bills, can collect allowances for doing stupid shit like sitting, farting and breathing, and can influence government tenders to go their way. So your relatives, whether real or imagined, WILL seek re-election.
 

Bigfish1

Village Elder
#34
Stupid rubbish. YOU BABOONS GIVE BIRTH LIKE RATS AND EXPECT EVERYBODY ELSE TO MOP UP YOUR SHIT. WHEN THEY DON'T YOU BLAME EVERYBODY BUT YOURSELVES........................
Oldie siku hizi umekuwa Mr bitter. Ofcourse kuzaana is another issue to add on, lakini systems have to be efficient..
I would sponsor some whitecup but my money doesn't buy alcohol..
 

Kodiaga

Village Sponsor
#35
Thank you sir. I honestly think you are one of the few pillars of intelligence here.

Having said that, let me tell you a story. Believe it or not not, I have vied for an MP's seat. I had come from a blue-chip company at the time and thought I should go mashinani to make a difference.

In all my working years, I had never seen the greed I saw in the electorate when I vied. At just 37, I was expected to repair roads, attend all church harambees (about 15 per Sunday), funerals, marriages, cd launches, hospital bills, you name it.

I lost a cool Sh5m in six months and didn't get elected. I was no.3 out of 20.

What am I saying? Kenyans are the most duplicious, phony and hypocritical idiots you'll ever meet. On the one hand they want good gavament but on the other they ALL want handouts from politicians. How can a simple Mp meet the funeral, marriage, school fees etc etc etc needs of a constituency of 200,000 people?

I have 2 MPs and 3 MCAS who are related to me, and when I say related am not saying it in the Luhya sense. I mean RELATED.

All say they will not vie again. Nobody will believe me, but MPs are having it rough. The guys who are making money are the MCAs, and the county administration.

My point? The BS propagated by the media is just that, BS. Parliament accounts for less that 5% per cent of national budget. Go figure............
MCAs are also having it rough. My former MCA is now operating a wines and spirits. There is one who was on news the other day is doing a bodaboda. This week, an ex-MCA killed wife due to domestic squabbles. They are expected to attend every funeral in the village and donate some good amount of money
 

uhondo

Village Elder
#36
That you are the people who legislate, then come back to blame the electorate calling them greedy is beyond being ridiculous. If it has become such a nuisance as you claim, then legislate to put up support structures for the electorate you claim to represent. These guys are the quintessential lords of poverty. They want people sick, poor, illiterate, and hungry so they can look up to them for their sustenance. They don't want you healthy, educated, and well fed because you will challenge them.
The penalty of not participating in politics is you end up being governed by your inferiors.
 

mikel

Village Sponsor
#40
Thank you sir. I honestly think you are one of the few pillars of intelligence here.

Having said that, let me tell you a story. Believe it or not not, I have vied for an MP's seat. I had come from a blue-chip company at the time and thought I should go mashinani to make a difference.

In all my working years, I had never seen the greed I saw in the electorate when I vied. At just 37, I was expected to repair roads, attend all church harambees (about 15 per Sunday), funerals, marriages, cd launches, hospital bills, you name it.

I lost a cool Sh5m in six months and didn't get elected. I was no.3 out of 20.

What am I saying? Kenyans are the most duplicious, phony and hypocritical idiots you'll ever meet. On the one hand they want good gavament but on the other they ALL want handouts from politicians. How can a simple Mp meet the funeral, marriage, school fees etc etc etc needs of a constituency of 200,000 people?

I have 2 MPs and 3 MCAS who are related to me, and when I say related am not saying it in the Luhya sense. I mean RELATED.

All say they will not vie again. Nobody will believe me, but MPs are having it rough. The guys who are making money are the MCAs, and the county administration.

My point? The BS propagated by the media is just that, BS. Parliament accounts for less that 5% per cent of national budget. Go figure............
when ottichillo was my mp we asked him not to campaign for his reelection...he was that good. He was very lucky to have replaced Marende, who had done absolutely nothing in the constituency during his two terms. So all otichilo had to do was launch a few projects including piped water, grade some roads( and take credit for national government roads that were being completed), ensure transparency in bursary allocations and fund a few women's projects in every ward. Dude never used to give handouts and always looked poor anyway.
But he has been a disaster as governor. When i was a teenager the late Newton kulundu was also easily re-elected despite being sick and away most of the time....there were no handouts and I remember he was also asked by the people of kakamega not to campaign.
I believe Orengo also won his recent election without bothering to campaign.... and bwifoli is also renown for his ksh1000 contributions at funerals and other functions yet he was re-elected twice....he only failed when he tried to go for governorship.
But I understand in Nairobi, central and eastern regions one has to be really loaded to survive in elective positions. Mimi my three mp's in western province are all poor (by mp's standards).
 
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