Muslim and Development

this jamaa @T255 should come and explain as to why Dar has little spending power than it’s tinier rival Arusha, which is far-flung into the hinterland. is it that the Maasais (who are majority of the population/business owners) are more well off than Dar-ians, or the Islam culture of kuomba dua (which loses significant working hours per week) and non profitable lending among muslims, which contribute to slowed economic activities?

Just for incidentally similar comparison, Mombasa too is slow, less developed, yet goods enter through it, to make transportation charges rise their coat once in Nairobi. In Nigeria, the muslim north has the capital (Abuja), but it is smaller compared to the majority Christian port of Lagos. The Nigerian case can be applied to most other port cities around the planet, they outgrow (or grow before) the hinterland cities they share a mother country with. Doesn’t it go without saying that Islam is detrimental to Development? (not that christianity is any better, but at least it doesn’t get in the way of business).

Dar is lucky to be serving as far as Zambia and Congo, otherwise, Arusha would have taken lead with commercial activity, its other disadvantage being it’s significantly far from the port of Dar. Dar is being held back a lot by Islam culture (same for Mombasa), but this is a forever problem that will never get solved. Methinks Tanzania was double fucked by the concotion of Islam and Nationalism. A deadly retrogression combo for any pre-colonized African country.

For those who would come and ask “What about Gulf countries”?. Here is a breakdown of % of foreigners in those countries.

  1. UAE - 89%
  2. Qatar - 86%
  3. Kuwait - 70%
  4. Bahrain - 52%
  5. Oman - 44%
  6. Saudia Arabia - 33%

Also for them, they have oil which cushion them heavily against their laziness.

Islam is cancer

cancer is curable…

Islam is way of life…the only true religion alhamdullilah…to all non muslims, ahalan wasahallan…karibuni kwa dini takatifu…

opium copium. money is the only true religion. islam like the rest, still depend on money, hata mjifanye faida ni mbaya kwa mkopo. kwani zinakopwa zikapige sherehe?

Mambo ya dini huwa sijadiliani.
Nikiangalia namna watu wanavyoishi na mavi hapo kibera mpaka natokwa na machozi. Hakika watu wa kibera wanaishi kama nguruwe.

kibera ndio ni slum, but TZ pia kuna slums, adi it’s common slang mtu kuita chumba chake “ghetto langu”.

but hapa nilikua nawaza kuwa isingekua ni usilimu, Dar ipo nafas nzur kuwa mbal na ilipo. Mbina Arusha mna mihela kuliko Dar, ilhali Dar kubwa kwa umbali?
Didn’t Nyerere say Nationalism doesn’t work in 89 as he stepped down, to adopt capitalism. But it’s still yet to catch on kwa kuwa ingekua sehem nyengine, hicho kiwanja nyuma ya stendi kando ya Airtel HQ kingekua developed, kwani hapo mjini ndan.

mbona wewe unayependa kusema pointi za maana ziletwe kigezo chako ni Kibera mavi all the time? Ama kunani tena?

Ujamaa is socialism not nationalism

but the government owned everything, which is Nationalism.

And that is no big problem per se. For decades Kenya govt owned nearly all major businesses, banks, trading companies, hotels etc but with the aim of making profit. In TZ the govt owned everything with the aim of distributing wealth equally. The philosophy behind the ownership is the problem

Ninaweza kusema wewe ni mjinga. Yaani ulinganishe Arusha na Dar

Look here Islam countries

  1. Russia
  2. Indonesia
  3. Turkey
  4. Saud Arabia
  5. Egypt
  6. Iran

Kenyan education is under white brainwashing
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Kama China

Really? Tell me more.

but the potential of those businesses was not maximized by the kenyan govt. India went the same route earlier on but reducted early enough. ours the parastatal way

in TZ the government forcefully made some people poor by forcing them to ujamaa villages, yet they were more productive earlier on

Just like Tanzania.

i compared the purchasing power of both. in arusha it is easier to make money than Dar because of people’s spending habits.

Huwa nacheka sana.
Hizi ni Statistcs za World Bank

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nope.
Egypt, the first country on this list off Africa, benefits hugely from Suez Canal Taxes (where is Morocco, an Islam country? Libya, an Islam country with oil?)

besides being industrialized

Kwa kutumia references ipi. Do you know why population in Dar inaongezeka kila siku?