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  1. Amused

    Amused Village Elder

    I don't care whom you are; this kind of crap will catch up with you!

    Updated 5:10 PM EDT May 19, 2017

    President Donald Trump bragged to two top Russian officials last week that firing "nut job" FBI Director James Comey eased "great pressure" on him, The New York Times reported Friday.

    "I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said, according to the Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

    Trump's Oval Office meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak came one day after Comey was fired.

    White House press secretary Sean Spicer did not refute the Times story but said it was Comey's "grandstanding and politicizing" of the Russia investigation that put pressure on the administration's ability to engage Moscow.

    "The President has always emphasized the importance of making deals with Russia as it relates to Syria, Ukraine, defeating ISIS and other key issues for the benefit and safety of the American people," Spicer said in a statement to CNN. "By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia's actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia."

    He added, "The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations."

    Trump's dismissal of Comey was met with bipartisan derision. The move, which came after Trump asked Comey for his loyalty and, according to memos written by the former FBI director, requested he kill an investigation into Trump's top national security adviser, was seen as a clear violation of protocol and had some Democrats calling for impeachment.

    The President maintains he was surprised by the response to Comey's firing.

    "Director Comey was very unpopular with most people," he said Thursday at a news conference. "When I made that decision, I actually thought that it would be a bipartisan decision. Because you look at all of the people on the Democratic side, not only the Republican side, that were saying such terrible things about Director Comey."
    The news broke shortly after Trump took off for his critically important five-country, eight-day foreign trip, the first of his presidency.

    Days of drama after Comey firing
    The Times report is the latest in what has been a steady stream of news that has arisen out of Trump's decision to fire Comey and which threatens to overshadow Trump's foreign travel.

    Initially, the White House argued that Comey was fired based on the recommendations of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who wrote a memo suggesting Comey was unable to continue at the FBI.

    That argument quickly evaporated, though, after Trump — both on Twitter and in interviews — said that he had wanted to fire Comey for months.

    "I was going to fire Comey," Trump told NBC News' Lester Holt in an interview last week. "Regardless of the recommendation, I was going to fire Comey."

    The situation was made worse for Trump on Wednesday when Rosenstein appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to oversee the federal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

    As special counsel, Mueller is "authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters," according to the Justice Department order Rosenstein signed.

    Trump said on Thursday that the appointment of a special counsel — which "hurts our country" — proves he is the subject of "the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history."
    "I believe it hurts our country terribly, because it shows we're a divided, mixed-up, not-unified country," Trump said at a luncheon with a group of television news anchors.

    Trump's meeting with Lavrov and Kislyak was controversial before news of talk about Comey ever came out.

    No United States media were invited in for the meeting, but a photographer from TASS, the Russian state media organization, was in the room for at least part of the gathering. The meeting was also a personal request from Vladimir Putin. The Russian President asked that they meet when he spoke with Trump earlier this month.

    Congress wants the NYT document

    Shortly after the New York Times reported was published, Rep. Elijah Cummings, the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, asked the head of the committee, Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah, to request the document mentioned in the story.

    "This new report that President Trump openly admitted to the Russians that he 'faced great pressure' from the FBI's criminal investigation that was 'taken off' when he fired Director Comey is astonishing — and extremely troubling," he said.
    Other Democrats pounced on the story, arguing it shows clear attempts by Trump to obstruct justice.

    "This is what OBSTRUCTION looks like," Sen. Patrick Leahy, a Vermont Democrat, tweeted Friday.
    And Sen. Brian Schatz, a Hawaii Democrat, said, "Sorry for yelling guys. BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS S@#%SHOW THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR HEALTHCARE AND RUIN THE INTERNET."

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  2. Intellectreed

    Intellectreed Senior Villager

  3. 123tokambio

    123tokambio Village Sponsor

    This really cracked me up....
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  4. Don Rex

    Don Rex Senior Villager

    Witch hunt. Trump is kinda great.
  5. Amused

    Amused Village Elder

    Yeah I know, but there's nothing else in the news...;)
  6. coldpilsner

    coldpilsner Village Elder

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  7. Lucern

    Lucern Senior Villager

    There is something in the news . White house lawyers are reportedly doing some research about impeachment . Meaning there is a possibility that there could be enough evidence to show that the Russians had a collusion with tramp campaign to influence USA elections. If there was nothing to fear then they wouldn't have bothered doing a research but now they are doing it meaning there is a probable course .....tereng tereng ...cc @mouraythee what's your take today
  8. Amused

    Amused Village Elder

    White House lawyers research impeachment
    Updated 7:03 PM EDT May 19, 2017


    White House lawyers have begun researching impeachment procedures in an effort to prepare for what officials still believe is a distant possibility that President Donald Trump could have to fend off attempts to remove him from office, two people briefed on the discussions tell CNN.

    White House officials believe the President has the backing of Republican allies in Congress and that impeachment is not in the cards, according to the people briefed on the legal discussions. Even Democrats have tried to calm impeachment talk out of concern it is premature.

    But lawyers in the White House counsel's office have consulted experts in impeachment during the past week and have begun collecting information on how such proceedings would work, a person briefed on the matter told CNN.
    The White House originally did not comment for this story. After publication, a White House official said "it's not true" that White House lawyers are researching impeachment procedures.

    One outside attorney close to the office of White House counsel Don McGahn cast doubt on impeachment preparations, saying it wouldn't be something McGahn would authorize.

    The legal discussions are part of a broader internal effort to bolster the president's legal defense, which has become more complicated with the Justice Department's appointment of a special counsel to pursue the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

    Earlier this week, close advisers to the President, including lawyer and surrogate Michael Cohen, visited the White House to discuss his need to hire personal attorneys for Trump.

    UPDATE: This story has been updated to reflect White House comment.
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  9. Amused

    Amused Village Elder

    Funny kind of "ignored" where we know you ignored us. Try again.
  10. Ice_Cube

    Ice_Cube Village Sponsor

    even FOX news is discussing why Pence has been kept out of the loop in most of the controversial decisions. The presenters are talking of the possibility of a Pence presidency being highly likely and that he has opened Discussions on a new funds PAC.

  11. Lucern

    Lucern Senior Villager

    Should trump be impeached then I think pence will take over ama there will be elections again ?
  12. Amused

    Amused Village Elder

    Comey Agrees To Testify Before The Senate Intelligence Committee
    Updated at 8:19 p.m. ET

    Former FBI Director James Comey has agreed to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee in an open session.

    "The Committee looks forward to receiving testimony from the former Director on his role in the development of the Intelligence Community Assessment on Russian interference in the 2016 US elections, and I am hopeful that he will clarify for the American people recent events that have been broadly reported in the media," Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr, R-N.C., said in a statement released Friday evening.

    "I hope that former Director Comey's testimony will help answer some of the questions that have arisen since Director Comey was so suddenly dismissed by the President. I also expect that Director Comey will be able to shed light on issues critical to this Committee's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election," said Vice Chairman Mark Warner, D-Va. "Director Comey served his country with honor for many years, and he deserves an opportunity to tell his story. Moreover, the American people deserve an opportunity to hear it."

    Comey's highly anticipated testimony, which will be slated after the Memorial Day congressional recess, comes after he was fired by Trump May 9 amid a mounting investigation into Russian involvement in the 2016 election and possible ties between Trump campaign associates and that country.
    Comey, however, turned down an invitation to testify publicly before the Senate Judiciary Committee as well, which left chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., "extremely disappointed," the lawmakers said in a statement Friday evening.

    "There is no reason he can't testify before both the Intelligence and Judiciary Committees, particularly given that the Judiciary Committee is the FBI's primary oversight committee with broad jurisdiction over federal law enforcement, FISA and the nomination of the next FBI director," the two senators also said. "Given his commitment to the people and the mission of the FBI, we expected him to be responsive to the senators responsible for vetting its next proposed leader. He should reconsider his decision."

    While the White House initially pointed to a memo from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, outlining Comey's mismanagement of the investigation into Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's private email server, as the impetus for his termination, Trump later admitted that the Russia investigation — which he has called a "hoax" — played a role.

    Earlier on Friday, the New York Times reported that Trump told Russian officials the day after he fired Comey that the former FBI director was a "nut job" and he had let him go to take off the "great pressure" around the mounting investigation.

    Earlier this week, NPR confirmed that Trump had asked Comey to scuttle the investigation into his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, according to a memo of the account written by Comey. Trump has denied that ever happened.

    On Wednesday, Rosenstein appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as a special counsel to take over and continue the Justice Department investigation into Russian election interference and possible links with Trump campaign aides.

    Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit NPR.
  13. Amused

    Amused Village Elder

    Yes. Richard Nixon (resigned right before he was impeached) -> Gerald Ford
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  14. Sovereign2

    Sovereign2 Senior Villager

    Watching.........Tom and Jerry....Episode: Obstruction of Justice
    By the time Comey and Mueller are done with him, all we're going to say is "Comey giveth, and Comey takes away. Job 1:21". He's messed up with a lot of people, but the worst he did was criticize the media, the justice dept and the intelligent services.
    I'm sure Comey has more memos and other recordings- he's an extremely bright/smart guy, very well respected in the circles. The memos are admissible evidence, and will play a part if/when legal proceedings commence. The only advantage "T" has is that the Republicans are the current majority in the Senate. But that's short lived- after the 2018 elections, the Democrats will easily take over. In any case, the impeachment process will take time, and by that time the democrats will have control of the Senate. If I were in his shoes, I'd just keep quiet and calmly call it quits for "health reasons". Sounds dumb, but believable.
  15. Swansea

    Swansea Village Elder

    The investigation has to take its course. That will be less than a minimum of three years. Time for the next election. Unless something egregious comes out before then.

    Impeaching a US president is a political process. If the impeachment passes in the House, it has to go to the Senate for trial and pass. After which an independent prosecutor has to be appointed to bring charges against the POTUS in a court of law. Ngumu sana.

    The Republicans control both houses of Congress. Pray tell why they would want to shoot themselves in the foot as much as they don't like Trump and it's costing them? Possibility of a censure is rife and life goes on.

    It's akin to going to parliament at the moment, controlled by majority Jubilee and asking them to remove Uhuru.

    But as reckless as Trump is we can never say never. Although it's a shot in the dark.
    Last edited: May 20, 2017
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  16. Sovereign2

    Sovereign2 Senior Villager

    But at the current rate, it won't take long. In my opinion the dems will take control next year. In the next few months more republicans will go against him with the hopes of retaining their seats next year. It's going to be very interesting to see how it plays out. At the end of the day I think that he's going to be his worst enemy- he'll keep on talking and digging his trench deeper.
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  17. Amused

    Amused Village Elder

    On the contrary, I think it'll be quick. All the dots are there and all they've got to do is connect them. There's not too much investigation to do.
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  18. Lucern

    Lucern Senior Villager

    It's going to be interesting because most of the Republicans congressmen aren't coming back .it's a done deal for most of them. Democrats will take the house for sure.
  19. A.G.

    A.G. Village Elder

    Trump is here to stay.
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  20. mouraythee

    mouraythee Village Elder

    That's how Trump became a billionaire. Anticipating crises and readying his artillery. Watch him TOS(terminate on site).
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