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okuyu

okuyu

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#9
123tokambio said:
Was Vieira one of the best midfielders? Yes, he was. Did he captain his team to an unbeaten season? YES, he did....Fact. What else do you want to know for you to realise that he was the best of the best?
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so you want to tell us that in that particular season Arsenal won all the competitions ?? epl,uefa,carling ,fa,community shield bla bla blah
 
123tokambio

123tokambio

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#10
#10
okuyu said:
so you want to tell us that in that particular season Arsenal won all the competitions ?? epl,uefa,carling ,fa,community shield bla bla blah
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blah blah blah....Invincibles blah blah blah Golden Trophy..... Vieira still remains the best midfielder of his time....ama what's was your point of argument again? You seem to be drifting with every reply...
 
Simiyu22

Simiyu22

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#11
#11
123tokambio said:
blah blah blah....Invincibles blah blah blah Golden Trophy..... Vieira still remains the best midfielder of his time....ama what's was your point of argument again? You seem to be drifting with every reply...
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Best midfielder of his time in the UK. He was not the best in the world.
 
okuyu

okuyu

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#15
#15
123tokambio said:
Was Vieira one of the best midfielders? Yes, he was. Did he captain his team to an unbeaten season? YES, he did....Fac.t What else do you want to know for you to realise that he was the best of the best?
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my point is, in that season Arsenal participated in various competitions and performed quite well in the Epl managing 26 wins and 12 draws therefore lifting it unbeaten..
Arsenal fared less well in the cups, eliminated in the fa and league cp semi-finals by the mighty MUfc and midsbrough (sp)respectively, and at the quarter-final stage of the uefa champs league to chelsea.

so am I in order to say that u lied to the village when you said that-Did he captain his team to an unbeaten season? YES, he did....Fact
 
123tokambio

123tokambio

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#16
#16
Simiyu22 said:
Did he ever win the Champions league? Was he ever better than Zidane. Or Ronaldinho.
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So, to be the best, a player has to win the Champions league? Is that the benchmark for the best players? Or Zidane and Ronaldinho are the bench marks? Basically defensive Midfielders wouldn't count.
Then Thierry was not the best striker, and neither was Bergkamp, based on your arguement....
 
Simiyu22

Simiyu22

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#17
#17
123tokambio said:
So, to be the best, a player has to win the Champions league? Is that the benchmark for the best players? Or Zidane and Ronaldinho are the bench marks? Basically defensive Midfielders wouldn't count.
Then Thierry was not the best striker, and neither was Bergkamp, based on your arguement....
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Those two were the best in their time.
Who was a better striker than Henry or Bergkamp?
 
123tokambio

123tokambio

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#18
#18
okuyu said:
my point is, in that season Arsenal participated in various competitions and performed quite well in the Epl managing 26 wins and 12 draws therefore lifting it unbeaten..
Arsenal fared less well in the cups, eliminated in the fa and league cp semi-finals by the mighty MUfc and midsbrough (sp)respectively, and at the quarter-final stage of the uefa champs league to chelsea.

so am I in order to say that u lied to the village when you said that-Did he captain his team to an unbeaten season? YES, he did....Fact
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Your argument is baseless. When you talk about 'Season' in football, it never includes FA, Carling, or any other. Ever heard of 'UEFA season'? So, whether Arsenal lost all but the EPL games, then they went the whole season unbeaten.
There's a reason 'Invincibles' resonates with just Arsenal in the EPL...
 
123tokambio

123tokambio

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#20
#20
Simiyu22 said:
Those two were the best in their time.
Who was a better striker than Henry or Bergkamp?
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Rui Costa?
Seedorf?
Del Piero?
Gerrard?
Pirlo?
Weren't those best too? They too played in Zidane/Dinho era.
I on the other hand believe they were best among the best, and so was Vieira....
Don't just fete attacking midfielders and ignore defensive ones...
 
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