Plagiarism ama double dealing ?

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Kimakia

Guest
#3
Endelea tu kulala. It would take several hours to verify one Form 34.Checking the watermark position, design, colors of the print, looking for the typos which are typical signs of forgery, doing signature verifications , etc. Imagine looking through 11000 forms. There is nothing she checked, if anything superficial.
Support you argument...
 
#5
Endelea tu kulala. It would take several hours to verify one Form 34.Checking the watermark position, design, colors of the print, looking for the typos which are typical signs of forgery, doing signature verifications , etc. Imagine looking through 11000 forms. There is nothing she checked, if anything superficial.
Only the forms termed as having discrepancies,by Orengo,were checked. Your argument is therefore rendered null and void.
 

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#6
Only the forms termed as having discrepancies,by Orengo,were checked. Your argument is therefore rendered null and void.
The question is since Orengo pointed out the docs, was he given a chance to explain himself (his questions) about those docs. Or did she consider evidence without the complainant being queried? If not, how do you make a ruling based on that?
 

Nyashri

Senior Villager
#7
Endelea tu kulala. It would take several hours to verify one Form 34.Checking the watermark position, design, colors of the print, looking for the typos which are typical signs of forgery, doing signature verifications , etc. Imagine looking through 11000 forms. There is nothing she checked, if anything superficial.
Every judge has a team behind them, a team thy trust to do a good job as them. Their owm eyes n ears. So its possible
 

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#9
that being so how then did the lazy four arrive at a determination based on the "unexplained" forms?
I think I was asking a question. Sorry I forgot to place the "?'' at the end. But to answer your question, I thought the "lazy" four made their determinations based on what was presented and they cross-examined.
 

ndume

Village Elder
#10
You may think that you have discovered something but you are lost. I indicated at the top of the post that it was C&P. Judge Njoki did not check 11000k forms, she said clearly that she checked only the dissputed 291 34Bs AND about 1000k 34As. She has even put them in her judgement from page 280. When @Simiyu22 says she did not check yet the information is on the tables on her judgement, does he mean those tables are fake. She said she used the the forms presented to court as evidence. Nobody has disputed this so far. The tables speak for themselves
 

ndume

Village Elder
#11
Endelea tu kulala. It would take several hours to verify one Form 34.Checking the watermark position, design, colors of the print, looking for the typos which are typical signs of forgery, doing signature verifications , etc. Imagine looking through 11000 forms. There is nothing she checked, if anything superficial.
You are introducing new issues in the argument. 11000 forms were not disputed. The petition said 11000k forms had not been received at NTC at the time of announcing results. The petitions was also about watermarks, serial numbers and signatures. That is what she has put on those tables after checking eg, forms 34Bs from Likoni, Nyali. Isiolo south, and kisauni. Nyali is actually what Judge Lenaola had asked about in the courtroom. Ngatia had asked them to countercheck with what they have at the court because for them, they had a copy that signed. They did not, Njoki checked. So, the forms she had to check were less that 2000k
 

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#13
You may think that you have discovered something but you are lost. I indicated at the top of the post that it was C&P. Judge Njoki did not check 11000k forms, she said clearly that she checked only the dissputed 291 34Bs AND about 1000k 34As. She has even put them in her judgement from page 280. When @Simiyu22 says she did not check yet the information is on the tables on her judgement, does he mean those tables are fake. She said she used the the forms presented to court as evidence. Nobody has disputed this so far. The tables speak for themselves
No I don't think I found something new. Let me read through that judgement.
 

gashwin

Village Chief
#15
You may think that you have discovered something but you are lost. I indicated at the top of the post that it was C&P. Judge Njoki did not check 11000k forms, she said clearly that she checked only the dissputed 291 34Bs AND about 1000k 34As. She has even put them in her judgement from page 280. When @Simiyu22 says she did not check yet the information is on the tables on her judgement, does he mean those tables are fake. She said she used the the forms presented to court as evidence. Nobody has disputed this so far. The tables speak for themselves
Wachana na @Simiyu22 amekuwa akitumia tweet ya Muguna Kuguna kama authority tangu Jana. The folly of refusing to think for oneself!
 
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ndume

Village Elder
#18
The simple fact that the total number of gazetted polling stations was 40883 and the total number of polling that sent results was 41541, means that some fake forms were used. No wonder all Njoki Ndungu`s petitions and affidavits are being investigated by the JSC
The majority decision says some forms were in duplicates
 

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