Prof Abel Mugenda suicide:Marrying overly successful damsel

Karoga

Village Elder
No it's isn't, it just means that women have more rights since we wouldn't have had single mothers in the old days because of prejudice from society.

If you got a baby out of wedlock, you would be cast out. Single motherhood is not a peculiar occurrence, it's a normal outcome of men's promiscuity and women's poor judgement.

The only threat I see coming from the feminazi brigade in Kenya in the near future is the 2/3 gender rule which was delayed for the umpteenth time and the ascendancy of Njoki Ndungu to the Chief Justice position.

When it comes to the economy in Kenya, women still depend on men, heck women still depend on men for child upkeep in the developed world under the excuse of liberalism.
Wacha hata child support angalia alimony ,Kenya is a great place to live
 

Purple

Moderator
Staff member
No it's isn't, it just means that women have more rights since we wouldn't have had single mothers in the old days because of prejudice from society.

When it comes to the economy in Kenya, women still depend on men, heck women still depend on men for child upkeep in the developed world under the excuse of liberalism.
Your first paragraph agrees with me that women have more rights. As time progresses, we’re going to have even more rights.

Your last paragraph is dead wrong! Women in Kenya are more economically empowered than men.

This article was lifted from the Daily Nation. It was published on February 9th 2018

-According to the Central Bank of Kenya, 82% of all savings belong to women! Chew on that as you read more....:D:D

Kenyan women more economically empowered than men
Throughout human history, the man has been envisioned as the natural head of the family and thereby the breadwinner.
Consequently, the man earned, saved, invested and directed household expenditure.

In this regard, the society would invest in the boy and empower him to fend for the whole family.
But how sustainable is this gender role moving forward?

GENDER EQUALITY
A few years back, the National Gender and Equality Commission conducted a research on the status of the boy child in Kenya.

A staggering 92 per cent of the respondents said that the boy was lagging behind in the gender equality agenda whereas only eight per cent disagreed.

The majority of respondents noted that the boy was disempowered because for more than 30 years, the society had focused on the girl, designing programmes and interventions to empower her at the expense of her brother.

Not so long ago, one blogger caused a storm when he carried this narrative to a national platform with assertions that the boy is neglected.
At a closer look, facts seem to lend credence to his school of thought.

ROLE MODELS
Data from across the world suggests that boys are more likely to drop out of school than girls.
They are more likely to abuse drugs. The boy, in some countries, is 20 times more likely to be imprisoned.

And sadly, boys have no role models on how to transition into men.

In the Economic Survey of 2017, the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics indicates, there are more female than male teachers in Kenya.
From the onset, girls have the advantage of numerous role models while boys have to make do with a handful.

The boy is then by accident or design modelled by the men he sees outside the school.
These could be touts, construction workers, security guards or drunken relatives.

EMPLOYMENT
The problem is especially exacerbated if the boy is being raised by a single mother.
These factors contribute to the boy being vulnerable to societal vagaries.

The KNBS figures give a narrative of gender equity in employment with a difference of seven per cent.
However, the growth in the number of women employees is increasing faster than that of men.

If the purpose of women empowerment was mainstreaming, by and large, this goal has been achieved through legislation, policy and advocacy.
The boy child’s neglect is evidenced further in the absence of policies and programmes designed for him.

BANKING SECTOR
Barclays Bank International admitted in 2016 to having more women in their ranks at 51 per cent.
But why are banks hiring women en masse?

In the same year, the Central Bank of Kenya shocked the country when it revealed that 82 per cent of the savings in the country belong to women.
It is believed these savings are driven by the informal chamas!

On noticing the bulk of their customers are women, the banks formulated policies and products that favoured women.

This hiring trend has been followed by other financial service providers like insurance companies and fund managers.
The resultant effect is that women are landing jobs faster than men.

INVESTMENT
The contrast for men is obvious. Men do not have the cooperative savings discipline visible in the chama.

Very few men even belong to a savings or investments group.

Perhaps their biggest undoing today is unfettered access to sports betting.

In business, the Kenyan woman has access to loans from a myriad of microfinance institutions, pink bank loan facilities, government bodies like the Uwezo fund and Women Enterprise Fund, all of which are unavailable to men.

While statistics indicate women own and run 48 per cent of small and medium enterprises in Kenya, their growth figures are higher and more attractive.

REAL ESTATE
In an article published in this paper, Jorum Mwangi, the Heri Homes’ operations director in charge of construction, noted there were more young women buying property than there were young men.

In one of their projects in Mithonge, Kikuyu, he said: “Of the 63 who had bought the apartments, four were below the age of 30, and they were all women”. Women are investing more.

This skewed success has caused the boy to be intimidated and frustrated because he cannot measure up. The inequality has driven him deeper towards drugs and crime.

EDUCATION
Given the aforementioned, a girl enrolled in Standard One this January has a higher chance of graduating than a boy in the same class.
Further, a female fresh graduate has a higher chance of success in the next five years.
In the NGEC research, a parent in Embu was quoted as saying:

“You have concentrated on the girl child to the extent that the boy child has been turned into an avocado; we now educate our girls for outsiders to marry because there is no boy here to marry them”. Was she right?

Odhiambo is an economist and analyst @Odhiamboramogi
 
It's impossible to have an objective discussion about gender with a woman and that's why I mostly avoid such. Look at @Purple's arguments for example. At one point she is talking of women being superior to men economically ati even if it's with the help of sponyos. Isn't that contradiction? A man is helping you out financially and you are giving him sex in return then you turn around and shout how you are more economically empowered than men? Smh! Another desperate attempt was her saying that women gave birth to men to somehow indicate that women are superior. Lol, has any woman ever fertilized her ovaries by herself ama y'all do cell splitting like a damn amoeba. You gave birth because you submitted to a man, spread your legs for him, and let him pour his seed inside you.
 

LINANI

Village Elder
This is a Wake up call for men.
Fatherhood is the most thankless job ever, first you become a father through hearsay. You spend all your productive years feeding, providing shelter, school fees etc to your Wife's children. Then when you retire you get isolated.
Two years ago, I resolved to take care of the Old man more, every first weekend of the Month is our lunch weekend. Men have huge egos so if they have a problem, they don't speak. Bond with your old man, he just wants the assurance that he did well.
 
Your first paragraph agrees with me that women have more rights. As time progresses, we’re going to have even more rights.

Your last paragraph is dead wrong! Women in Kenya are more economically empowered than men.

This article was lifted from the Daily Nation. It was published on February 9th 2018

-According to the Central Bank of Kenya, 82% of all savings belong to women! Chew on that as you read more....:D:D

Kenyan women more economically empowered than men
Throughout human history, the man has been envisioned as the natural head of the family and thereby the breadwinner.
Consequently, the man earned, saved, invested and directed household expenditure.

In this regard, the society would invest in the boy and empower him to fend for the whole family.
But how sustainable is this gender role moving forward?

GENDER EQUALITY
A few years back, the National Gender and Equality Commission conducted a research on the status of the boy child in Kenya.

A staggering 92 per cent of the respondents said that the boy was lagging behind in the gender equality agenda whereas only eight per cent disagreed.

The majority of respondents noted that the boy was disempowered because for more than 30 years, the society had focused on the girl, designing programmes and interventions to empower her at the expense of her brother.

Not so long ago, one blogger caused a storm when he carried this narrative to a national platform with assertions that the boy is neglected.
At a closer look, facts seem to lend credence to his school of thought.

ROLE MODELS
Data from across the world suggests that boys are more likely to drop out of school than girls.
They are more likely to abuse drugs. The boy, in some countries, is 20 times more likely to be imprisoned.

And sadly, boys have no role models on how to transition into men.

In the Economic Survey of 2017, the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics indicates, there are more female than male teachers in Kenya.
From the onset, girls have the advantage of numerous role models while boys have to make do with a handful.

The boy is then by accident or design modelled by the men he sees outside the school.
These could be touts, construction workers, security guards or drunken relatives.

EMPLOYMENT
The problem is especially exacerbated if the boy is being raised by a single mother.
These factors contribute to the boy being vulnerable to societal vagaries.

The KNBS figures give a narrative of gender equity in employment with a difference of seven per cent.
However, the growth in the number of women employees is increasing faster than that of men.

If the purpose of women empowerment was mainstreaming, by and large, this goal has been achieved through legislation, policy and advocacy.
The boy child’s neglect is evidenced further in the absence of policies and programmes designed for him.

BANKING SECTOR
Barclays Bank International admitted in 2016 to having more women in their ranks at 51 per cent.
But why are banks hiring women en masse?

In the same year, the Central Bank of Kenya shocked the country when it revealed that 82 per cent of the savings in the country belong to women.
It is believed these savings are driven by the informal chamas!

On noticing the bulk of their customers are women, the banks formulated policies and products that favoured women.

This hiring trend has been followed by other financial service providers like insurance companies and fund managers.
The resultant effect is that women are landing jobs faster than men.

INVESTMENT
The contrast for men is obvious. Men do not have the cooperative savings discipline visible in the chama.

Very few men even belong to a savings or investments group.

Perhaps their biggest undoing today is unfettered access to sports betting.

In business, the Kenyan woman has access to loans from a myriad of microfinance institutions, pink bank loan facilities, government bodies like the Uwezo fund and Women Enterprise Fund, all of which are unavailable to men.

While statistics indicate women own and run 48 per cent of small and medium enterprises in Kenya, their growth figures are higher and more attractive.

REAL ESTATE
In an article published in this paper, Jorum Mwangi, the Heri Homes’ operations director in charge of construction, noted there were more young women buying property than there were young men.

In one of their projects in Mithonge, Kikuyu, he said: “Of the 63 who had bought the apartments, four were below the age of 30, and they were all women”. Women are investing more.

This skewed success has caused the boy to be intimidated and frustrated because he cannot measure up. The inequality has driven him deeper towards drugs and crime.

EDUCATION
Given the aforementioned, a girl enrolled in Standard One this January has a higher chance of graduating than a boy in the same class.
Further, a female fresh graduate has a higher chance of success in the next five years.
In the NGEC research, a parent in Embu was quoted as saying:

“You have concentrated on the girl child to the extent that the boy child has been turned into an avocado; we now educate our girls for outsiders to marry because there is no boy here to marry them”. Was she right?

Odhiambo is an economist and analyst @Odhiamboramogi
This article leaves a lot to be desired. Just because women are 'empowered' and boys aren't doesn't mean that women don't depend on men. Does the article stipulate how these women acquired those savings. Also we know the population of women is greater than that of men and we also know women save more and men spend more. How do you even define economic empowerment? Do you even think the majority of those women in chamas who are married would be able to save if the husband did not provide for the family. And don't you try to twist this by saying that majority of women in chamas are unmarried.

Also that 48% of smes are in the rural areas, are likely to have less than 2 employees and are also unlikely to grow. 85% of female owned smes are in the informal sector. The other 52% owned by men, produce more, grow at a greater rate and have more than 2 employees.

You are getting there but not without depending on men.

http://www.ifc.org/wps/wcm/connect/...+and+Economic+Growth+in+Kenya.pdf?MOD=AJPERES
 
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Tom Bayeye

Village Sponsor
Unajua these signs show up when dating.Why marry her kama unajua ile inakuwait huko mbele.Most ladies are respectful.Doesnt matter the amount of money being brought to the table by her.Respect and love isn't about money
peer pressure adds weight as well,picture a bunch of female friends half is independent and earns substancially well and can afford to live life whichever way they please,on the other hand, the half is ball and chained to kids and a husband,for sure they will be influenced into thinking otherwise regardless they are respectful,religious or focused
 
Men should put a little more effort in planning for their Andropose years. Lazima ujipange saii ndio uishi maisha mzuri when you have the time and money in future. These are my strategies which I know will always work.

1. Make sure that the wife knows there are numerous other women waiting for your separation/divorce. Always keep female acquaintances and every once in a while talk about them. It works wonders. "Hey you need car insurance? Let me hook you up with Katie she'll sort you out". Wakati ataletewa hio insurance sticker atapatana na kasichana braunskin, figure 8, karembo kuruka, mpaka akuulize mlijuana aje? Then brush her off with some easy comment.

2. Male libido and masculinity wears off if you keep hitting one pu**y for years. It's not in our genes at all. Don't succumb to religious guidance and counsel. For the sake of your marriage and for your sanity tafuta random women wa kukula once in a while. Fake some business trip or an ocha-visit ukamue msichana for 3 to 4 days, before returning back to your wife fully charged. It really works wonders and will eliminate things like ED, PE and other sexual conditions. This is not a selfish thing btw, its for you wife and marriage as well.

3. Be very supportive to your kids, teach your kids independent thinking, reasoning and problem solving skills. Wachia wife kazi ya discipline. Wewe concentrate on teaching them real-life skills. Bond with them as much as possible. Do random projects with them and create some private time where the wife is not involved. Like, if you taught your son/daughter woodworking, the wife atakuangalia kwa umbali tu.

If you do these things hakuna wakati utahitaji kujifunga kamba kwa shingo. Sijaskia mwanaume ame-commit suicide coz he was caught cheating. Take care of yourselves.
 

Purple

Moderator
Staff member
Men should put a little more effort in planning for their Andropose years. Lazima ujipange saii ndio uishi maisha mzuri when you have the time and money in future. These are my strategies which I know will always work.

1. Make sure that the wife knows there are numerous other women waiting for your separation/divorce. Always keep female acquaintances and every once in a while talk about them. It works wonders. "Hey you need car insurance? Let me hook you up with Katie she'll sort you out". Wakati ataletewa hio insurance sticker atapatana na kasichana braunskin, figure 8, karembo kuruka, mpaka akuulize mlijuana aje? Then brush her off with some easy comment.

2. Male libido and masculinity wears off if you keep hitting one pu**y for years. It's not in our genes at all. Don't succumb to religious guidance and counsel. For the sake of your marriage and for your sanity tafuta random women wa kukula once in a while. Fake some business trip or an ocha-visit ukamue msichana for 3 to 4 days, before returning back to your wife fully charged. It really works wonders and will eliminate things like ED, PE and other sexual conditions. This is not a selfish thing btw, its for you wife and marriage as well.

3. Be very supportive to your kids, teach your kids independent thinking, reasoning and problem solving skills. Wachia wife kazi ya discipline. Wewe concentrate on teaching them real-life skills. Bond with them as much as possible. Do random projects with them and create some private time where the wife is not involved. Like, if you taught your son/daughter woodworking, the wife atakuangalia kwa umbali tu.

If you do these things hakuna wakati utahitaji kujifunga kamba kwa shingo. Sijaskia mwanaume ame-commit suicide coz he was caught cheating. Take care of yourselves.
:D:D:D:D:D:D

Nyam....some points are good, like taking care of your kids. But let me tell you what. If you think that by giving your wife the work of disciplining will make the kids like you more, you are wrong.

A mother’s bond with her children ni bond ingine special sana. All over the world, Mother’s Day is celebrated with more dazzle and enthusiasm. Why? Why do courts favor mothers with child custody? It’s because a mother is more important to a young child than a dad. There’s a level of nurturing that males can’t hack, sorry.

Lastly, the best gift you can give your children is being loyal to their mother. Treating her well. If they ever see their mom crying ati juu dad is hanyaing behind mum’s back, the hatred will start right there and it’s almost permanent. Picture seeing your mom crying ati your dad is showing her madharau with a young girl. Imagine knowing that you could be having nicer things if it weren’t for a kunguru shacking up with your dad? Never, ever piss off mom or else they can all gang up against you na utabaki peke yako.
 

Purple

Moderator
Staff member
This article leaves a lot to be desired. Just because women are 'empowered' and boys aren't doesn't mean that women don't depend on men. Does the article stipulate how these women acquired those savings. Also we know the population of women is greater than that of men and we also know women save more and men spend more. How do you even define economic empowerment? Do you even think the majority of those women in chamas who are married would be able to save if the husband did not provide for the family. And don't you try to twist this by saying that majority of women in chamas are unmarried.

Also that 48% of smes are in the rural areas, are likely to have less than 2 employees and are also unlikely to grow. 85% of female owned smes are in the informal sector. The other 52% owned by men, produce more, grow at a greater rate and have more than 2 employees.

You are getting there but not without depending on men.

http://www.ifc.org/wps/wcm/connect/...+and+Economic+Growth+in+Kenya.pdf?MOD=AJPERES
Trends, mister. :D Did you read the part where the article states that a female graduate is more likely to be successful than a man 5 years post graduation?

What about the fact that banks and other financial service providers are more likely to hire women than men? It’s a fact that more saccos and chamas are run by women. Kenyan women ‘have access to loans from a myriad of microfinance institutions, pink bank loan facilities, government bodies like the Uwezo fund and Women Enterprise Fund, all of which are unavailable to men.’

A female standard one pupil has a higher chance of graduating than a boy in the same class. Less than even two decades girls were at risk for not completing their education due to early marriage.
We have come a mighty long way thanks to legislation, policy and advocacy.
 

Okiya

Village Elder
Men should put a little more effort in planning for their Andropose years. Lazima ujipange saii ndio uishi maisha mzuri when you have the time and money in future. These are my strategies which I know will always work.

1. Make sure that the wife knows there are numerous other women waiting for your separation/divorce. Always keep female acquaintances and every once in a while talk about them. It works wonders. "Hey you need car insurance? Let me hook you up with Katie she'll sort you out". Wakati ataletewa hio insurance sticker atapatana na kasichana braunskin, figure 8, karembo kuruka, mpaka akuulize mlijuana aje? Then brush her off with some easy comment.

2. Male libido and masculinity wears off if you keep hitting one pu**y for years. It's not in our genes at all. Don't succumb to religious guidance and counsel. For the sake of your marriage and for your sanity tafuta random women wa kukula once in a while. Fake some business trip or an ocha-visit ukamue msichana for 3 to 4 days, before returning back to your wife fully charged. It really works wonders and will eliminate things like ED, PE and other sexual conditions. This is not a selfish thing btw, its for you wife and marriage as well.

3. Be very supportive to your kids, teach your kids independent thinking, reasoning and problem solving skills. Wachia wife kazi ya discipline. Wewe concentrate on teaching them real-life skills. Bond with them as much as possible. Do random projects with them and create some private time where the wife is not involved. Like, if you taught your son/daughter woodworking, the wife atakuangalia kwa umbali tu.

If you do these things hakuna wakati utahitaji kujifunga kamba kwa shingo. Sijaskia mwanaume ame-commit suicide coz he was caught cheating. Take care of yourselves.
Pewa Guinness mbili baridi on my account. Umeongea wisdom kama chairman wa council of elders.
 
Trends, mister. :D Did you read the part where the article states that a female graduate is more likely to be successful than a man 5 years post graduation?

What about the fact that banks and other financial service providers are more likely to hire women than men? It’s a fact that more saccos and chamas are run by women. Kenyan women ‘have access to loans from a myriad of microfinance institutions, pink bank loan facilities, government bodies like the Uwezo fund and Women Enterprise Fund, all of which are unavailable to men.’

A female standard one pupil has a higher chance of graduating than a boy in the same class. Less than even two decades girls were at risk for not completing their education due to early marriage.
We have come a mighty long way thanks to legislation, policy and advocacy.
All that post graduate success and access to loans and they still depend on men. Their businesses are not productive enough, they don't employ enough and they certainly aren't as independent as you claim.
Banks are downsizing and the job descriptions favor female qualities so try another angle.
And graduation means nothing in Kenya if you can't find a job or start a successful business with the numerous pink societies that are willing to offer credit. How many women have we seen with placards on the road looking for employment and husbands?
 
:D:D:D:D:D:D

Nyam....some points are good, like taking care of your kids. But let me tell you what. If you think that by giving your wife the work of disciplining will make the kids like you more, you are wrong.

A mother’s bond with her children ni bond ingine special sana. All over the world, Mother’s Day is celebrated with more dazzle and enthusiasm. Why? Why do courts favor mothers with child custody? It’s because a mother is more important to a young child than a dad. There’s a level of nurturing that males can’t hack, sorry.

Lastly, the best gift you can give your children is being loyal to their mother. Treating her well. If they ever see their mom crying ati juu dad is hanyaing behind mum’s back, the hatred will start right there and it’s almost permanent. Picture seeing your mom crying ati your dad is showing her madharau with a young girl. Imagine knowing that you could be having nicer things if it weren’t for a kunguru shacking up with your dad? Never, ever piss off mom or else they can all gang up against you na utabaki peke yako.
Naturally women play a big role in disciplining children and spend a huge amount of time with children. The best a man can do is support his woman in disciplining the child. But huwezi kuwa wewe ndiye una-shout kila wakati ati "purple usicheze na maji", "purple kuja ukule ama nikutandike" "purple enda ukaoge ndio ukalale, na ukumbuke kukojoa" .

A man can try but the woman will always play the larger role. It's better to put your efforts elsewhere like teaching your kids a life long skill which also frees up time for the wife and allows you to bond with the kids. This is not to endear yourself to your children. No child has ever hated a parent for molding him/her to the person they are today. Be it through tough discipline or teaching them life skills. Children will always love them for that later in life. Honestly, that's shallow thinking on your part.

When it comes to cheating, a man should never cheat emotionally. In other words don't establish relationships with women. Don't pay rent or upkeep for other women as well. Tafuta transactional sex, ama convenience sex and not every other week but once in a while. Peleka kasichana holiday kampala, ukule hadi you lose weight. College girls, random girls etc. Unakula tu mara moja unaondokea pia wanaume wengine wapate slices zao. Hata bibi akikushika you have a lot of room to deny. This greatly reduces your chance of getting caught because you will still remain romantic and connected to the wife at an emotional level

Any man who makes a mistake of fucking one wife for 20+ years in the name of remaining faithful will face sexual challenges. Erectile dysfunction, Premature ejaculation etc etc. Primarily because it is very unnatural. Unfortunately even if the wife is understanding, challenges in bed will lower your ego to the lowest levels ever. Not forgetting that if it persists, pursuits from other men will suddenly seem attractive to the wife. Halafu bibi atashinda akikwambia uende hospitali uangaliwe etc etc, which will never work in a million years. That's why I said cheating is necessary to save your marriage and of course for your sanity. Men remain faithful at their own risk!
 
the BEST AND PERFECT WIFE ni mwenye ajasoma zaidi ya class 8.amalizekcpe,aende tailoring studies ama course ingine....baaaaassss
Well , I know one, infact I think she was illiterate and her husband was a big shot, working in the bank, and then the man who was enjoying a wonderful marriage with a wife who has no say and he was the king of the castle DIED, wah! the bros took everything, his wife became a mama mboga, dont even ask me how his kids are doing because things just went south from there, they didnt even have peace.
 
Hey @Purple I know to you these are just kawaida places buh on here kuna watu hata hawajui huko ni wapi just like when I said I am having dinner with some chuty friends I was told I am bragging but later come to think of it , if the only asian you know is your boss it must not be nice for you to hear that someone as black as you has asians for frens... be sensitive to their 'needs'
 

Purple

Moderator
Staff member
Hey @Purple I know to you these are just kawaida places buh on here kuna watu hata hawajui huko ni wapi just like when I said I am having dinner with some chuty friends I was told I am bragging but later come to think of it , if the only asian you know is your boss it must not be nice for you to hear that someone as black as you has asians for frens... be sensitive to their 'needs'
Yeah totally kawaida. Some also can’t understand how you can be in Hotel A today and tomorrow be in yet another 5 star enterprise. To us that’s nothing, gosh. :D:D:D
 
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