Senate voting on War with Iran

Amused

Village Elder
#4
What are the arguments for war?
Apparently, there is a proposed amendment to strip the power of unilaterally declaring war from the President (passed in 2001). So the question is "should the President retain this power?" (Udall Amendment)

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The arguments for war that I've heard are that not beating the shit out of the Ayatollah makes America look weak

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Nattydread

Village Chief
#5
Kassin,

Drumpf can start a war tomorrow if he wants, but he knows that that will be the beginning of huge problems. One is that he'd probably get support from the UK, Israel, Saudi Arabia and UAE, but Russia, China and the EU are not going to fiat it. Secondly, it would become HIS war, unrelated to previous conflicts, which makes his usual habit of blaming Obama impossible .

The reason why he called off a strike with minutes to spare is because he realized that he's short on allies and does not know what to do if Iran decides it has nothing more to lose and targets Saudi Arabia or any other desert kingdom nearby. They shot a hi-tech US drone down, who knows what their air defences are capable of?
 

Amused

Village Elder
#7
Kassin,

Drumpf can start a war tomorrow if he wants, but he knows that that will be the beginning of huge problems. One is that he'd probably get support from the UK, Israel, Saudi Arabia and UAE, but Russia, China and the EU are not going to fiat it. Secondly, it would become HIS war, unrelated to previous conflicts, which makes his usual habit of blaming Obama impossible .

The reason why he called off a strike with minutes to spare is because he realized that he's short on allies and does not know what to do if Iran decides it has nothing more to lose and targets Saudi Arabia or any other desert kingdom nearby. They shot a hi-tech US drone down, who knows what their air defences are capable of?
My point exactly.

Here's the thing; Trump does things impulsively and explains (bullshits) later. This time, someone told him not to be trigger happy. Which means of course either the generals said "what?" or his wife said 'no sex tonight'. I vote for the former.
 

Amused

Village Elder
#8
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They are 1 vote away from defeating Trump. Senators are flying from out of state. There was a defense bill passed yesterday (Trump is sneaky) and this would restrict it.

100 Senators. You have to have 50+10 on the other side.
 
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Yungin, therein lies the problem. If Kenya had enough oil, would it be OK for your relatives to be bombed, or to use your word, annihilated by drones?
Iran is now world state sponsors of terror from Houthi rebels to Hamas to even here in kenya where we arrested two of their people with bomb making material, digest that.
 

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