someone must do something urgent about ISIS

[WuTang]

The region is still dealing with the mess created by Bush Jr. and his lackeys.

 

[Davidee]

The region is still dealing with the mess created by Bush Jr. and his lackeys.

Bush senior started it.refer to desert storm.

 

[Davidee]

ata abram tanks ziliwachwa

Hao mafala watawezana na abrams kweli

 

[Luther12]

There's a term I once came across, the 'petrol-dollar' in some documentary whose title I forget. The minute Gadaffi, and Saddam before him, began demanding oil payments in €, their stay in power became untenable. It's instructive that the two countries that led the attacks, the U.S. and UK do not use € as their legal tender and the first order of business of the 'coalition forces' on landing in Baghdad was to secure the oil ministry even as other offices and ministries were looted and burnt.

That may however not be the full story but it certainly is a major part of it.

 

[klevgit]

There's a term I once came across, the 'petrol-dollar' in some documentary whose title I forget. The minute Gadaffi, and Saddam before him, began demanding oil payments in €, their stay in power became untenable. It's instructive that the two countries that led the attacks, the U.S. and UK do not use € as their legal tender and the first order of business of the 'coalition forces' on landing in Baghdad was to secure the oil ministry even as other offices and ministries were looted and burnt.

That may however not be the full story but it certainly is a major part of it.

Gaddaffi went further and tried to make africa have a common currency to bargain with other player in the market. and boom he became a wanted and must die enemy.the trade all over the world is to be based on the petrol -dollar non negotiably.

 

[WuTang]

Bush senior started it.refer to desert storm.

Yeah, but the son created a bigger mess that spread beyond Iraq's borders.

 

[wonderful wonder]

ISIS is just Saudi, Turkey and USA. A group cannot accumulate such power within a short time without some governments in the region supporting it.

WHAT ABOUT IRAQ AND JORODAN???

 

[WuTang]

WHAT ABOUT IRAQ AND JORODAN???

Iraq is a failed state lakini Jordan inaweza kuwa involved in Syria but not that much compared to Turkey and Saudi who do not like Assad and the Shia/Kurd populations in Iraq. Halafu, Saudi is trying to assert its dominance in the region as the most powerful state but it fears Iran's influence in Yemen, Syria and Iraq where there are considerable Shia populations.

 

[Luther12]

WHAT ABOUT IRAQ AND JORODAN???

Wacha kutuangusha mblo. Eti Joro what?

 

[Luther12]

Iraq is a failed state lakini Jordan inaweza kuwa involved in Syria but not that much compared to Turkey and Saudi who do not like Assad and the Shia/Kurd populations in Iraq. Halafu, Saudi is trying to assert its dominance in the region as the most powerful state but it fears Iran's influence in Yemen, Syria and Iraq where there are considerable Shia populations.

To this lethal mix, add the potentially explosive issue of the Kurdi populations straddling Iran, Iraq, Turkey & to a small extent, Syria. Wakiamua ni self-determination expect 'repercussions'.

 

[WuTang]

To this lethal mix, add the potentially explosive issue of the Kurdi populations straddling Iran, Iraq, Turkey & to a small extent, Syria. Wakiamua ni self-determination expect 'repercussions'.

True. Kwanza Turkey haitaki kusikia hiyo story, ndiyo maana it offers safe passage to new ISIS recruits going to Syria. There's also evidence that shows injured Daesh fighters getting treatment in Turkish hospitals that are near the Syrian border. The Middle East is fucked for the next five to ten years.

 

[klevgit]

in all this mess there is someone making some buck who would wish the war to rage a bit more!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Luther12]

in all this mess there is someone making some buck who would wish the war to rage a bit more!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course. In every conflict there's millions to be made. Weapons will be sold, natural resources (read oil) mortgaged, not to mentioned even more millions to be made in the post-conflict reconstruction.

 

[Deleted member 229]

@Luther12 its secrets of the seven sisters by Al Jazeera...

 

[bonito]

Defeating isis can be difficult since they blend in with the civillians in the areas they occupy and therefore you cant just bomb them because the civillian casulties would be very high, they are like the hiv virus. As for the weapons isis earns alot of money from oil which they sell very cheap ( about $20 per gallon) they also savaged alot of weaponly from the iraqi army, in mosul alone when the iraqi army fled they left about 2300 humvees which are now in the hands of isis.

**$20/gallon **.. too expensive

 

[bonito]

Were they striped naked and sold as sex slaves? And do christians practice that today? (now that you quoted the bible.....)

i believe they still practise that in strip clubs and brothels........im surprised people still read that novel.

 

[john_doe]

**$20/gallon **.. too expensive

should be per barrel

 

[Mathaais]

Hao mafala watawezana na abrams kweli[/QUOTE
Most of those unaita mafala were part of the elite Republican Guard of Saddam Hussein. Very highly trained soldiers.

 

[wonderful wonder]

Wacha kutuangusha mblo. Eti Joro what?

pole,ni Jordan

 

[wonderful wonder]

in all this mess there is someone making some buck who would wish the war to rage a bit more!!!!!!!!!!!!

someone should shot whoever is making that money