Soprano supports secession

Soprano

Village Elder
#1
The economics of secession
By Ilya Somin

August 31, 2015 at 5:11 PM

Secession movements and their supporters often claim that separation will create an economic bonanza for the newly independent region. By contrast, opponents routinely predict that secession will lead to economic disaster. In this helpful article [HT: Alberto Mingardi] reviewing the relevant empirical evidence, Tim Sablik of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond concludes that the record is mixed:

Do seceding countries enjoy faster economic growth once untethered from the weight of their parents? There is limited evidence, in large part due to the rarity of these events. But according to the 2014 study by Rodríguez-Pose and Stermšek, there doesn’t appear to be an “independence dividend.” Even when regions in the former Yugoslavia were able to transition to independence fairly quickly and amicably, the authors found that those countries largely continued along the same growth path they had before becoming independent. Moreover, they still suffered significant economic losses immediately following their independence.Likewise, it is unclear that downsizing necessarily boosts growth chances. In a 2006 National Bureau of Economic Research working paper, Andrew Rose of the University of California, Berkeley studied a panel of more than 200 countries over 40 years. He found no strong evidence of size affecting economic well-being. And while there are plenty of examples of successful small countries, such as Luxembourg, Norway, and Singapore, many economists argue that institutions matter more than size.“It all depends,” says [economist Angel] Ubide, “on what you do with your economy once you are out.”
There are examples of highly successful secessions, such as the breakup of Czechoslovakia, the departure of the Baltic States from the Soviet Union, and Norway’s separation from Sweden. But there are plenty of counterexamples, as well. Whether secession leads to prosperity depends greatly on the economic policies adopted by the new nation. Estonia and Slovakia are good examples of nations that prospered after secession by adopting vastly better economic policies than they had before. But improved economic policy is far from being an inevitable result of secession.


Moreover, as Sablik emphasizes, secession often has significant transition costs, as setting up a new government and dismantling the old regime is often an expensive process. The costs are likely to be particularly high if the preexisting state and its rulers try to resist the secession, especially if they do so by force. The worst potential consequence of an attempt at secession is not poor economic policy, but a bloody civil war like that which occurred in Nigeria. In addition to the obvious direct harm it causes, large-scale killing and destruction isn’t exactly good for economic growth.

The mixed evidence on the economic effects of secession reinforces my view that secession movements should be judged on a case-by-case basis. It is a mistake to have a strong general predisposition in favor of secession, as some of my fellow libertarians do. But it is also a mistake to take a strong general stance against it, as do some Americans whose view of modern secession movements is heavily influenced by our own Civil War.

While the Confederacy was indeed horrendous, it does not follow that modern secession movements are the same way. Seceding for the purpose of perpetuating and expanding the evil institution of slavery is not the same thing as seceding for the purpose of promoting greater freedom, prosperity, and respect for human rights. While Confederate secession was a notorious example of the former, the American Revolution was an equally significant example of the latter. Ultimately, secession movements should be judged by their likely effects, both economic and political.
 

Soprano

Village Elder
#4
ces·sa·tion
seˈsāSH(ə)n/
noun
  1. the fact or process of ending or being brought to an end.
    "the cessation of hostilities"
    synonyms: end, ending, termination, stopping, halting, ceasing, finish, finishing, stoppage, conclusion, winding up, discontinuation, abandonment, suspension, breaking off, cutting short
    "the cessation of hostilities
se·ces·sion
səˈseSHən/
noun
noun: secession; plural noun: secessions
  1. the action of withdrawing formally from membership of a federation or body, especially a political state.
    "the republics want secession from the union"
    • historical
      the withdrawal of eleven southern states from the Union in 1860, leading to the Civil War.
      singular proper noun: Secession; noun: the Secession
    • variant of Sezession.
      noun: the Secession
 

Ice_Cube

Village Chief
#7
M**bwa nyinyi!
For how long do you think you can hold other communities at ransom? Nendeni huko mkaharibu kwenu! Central Kenya Republic is raring to soar and you are holding us back!!!
and your dimwit brain concludes we are not from cendro. Ujinga ni kipawa. You are the mbwa here
 

roots

Village Elder
#9
M**bwa nyinyi!
For how long do you think you can hold other communities at ransom? Nendeni huko mkaharibu kwenu! Central Kenya Republic is raring to soar and you are holding us back!!!
who told you am from central ,,,tribalistic,gayshit motherfucker....eat a bag of baby dicks for all i care
 

kalel

Village Elder
#17
I'm just wondering, what happens to Nairobi in this scenario, will Raila vacate his Karen mansion, what of his companies, won't they be in foreign territory, na watu ya kibra, wataenda industrial area ya bondo? Na ndii je, atakua persona non grata central republic ama, citizens watabaki based on tribe ama itakua jubilee vs nasa?
 

Soprano

Village Elder
#19
I'm just wondering, what happens to Nairobi in this scenario, will Raila vacate his Karen mansion, what of his companies, won't they be in foreign territory, na watu ya kibra, wataenda industrial area ya bondo? Na ndii je, atakua persona non grata central republic ama, citizens watabaki based on tribe ama itakua jubilee vs nasa?
It will be a dirty affair! They are talking about bullets!

You do not imagine Nairobi being transported to Kisumu, do you? They, too, know that it's impossible. That's why, in their proposed map, they are including the Maasai land in their propaganda in an effort to try and annexe Nairobi. And that's where the bullets will start flying!
 

LeoK

Village Elder
#20
I'm just wondering, what happens to Nairobi in this scenario, will Raila vacate his Karen mansion, what of his companies, won't they be in foreign territory, na watu ya kibra, wataenda industrial area ya bondo? Na ndii je, atakua persona non grata central republic ama, citizens watabaki based on tribe ama itakua jubilee vs nasa?
Daktari bonoko if you ask me.
 

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