Taming Tabitha Karanja

mwania

Village Elder
#41
Slavery never ended... and not any time soon.... Once you start making millions, you know that you know... you realize that everything you own is at the mercy of the system via KRA and other agencies... You learn about all the tax obligations and comply with them all or you perish through penalties and interests that over time can be much more than double or even triple the principal tax due.. Why slavery? electing dimwits means that they will come up with useless projects for pride and no real value to the nation and take loans on your behalf to finance this largesse then come for your cash to pay for these... and there is nothing you can do... kulipa ushuru ujitegemee ni bullcrap but we have to pay, for we are slaves...
 
#42
every billionaire makes millions in a day without paying tax, taxes in kenya are so massive and the only way to make billions is to evade them
the likes of chandaria, wanalipa few taxes, the likes of these elusive billionaire kikuyus. they dont pay tax. I absolutely agree with this article. She's is just a victim since the big wigs have interest in this sameinvestment
Humphrey failed to support key players in campaigns thats why they are back for her.
otherwise she can go to court, she can sue the state the way miguna did if they are infringing on her rights.
 

okuyu

Village Elder
#43
Her company is being targeted because she’s become very rich and money is power. Power must never be allowed to leave Ichaweri. Illuminati tactics!
For Tabitha to survive the traps cartels have laid on her business over the years, I believe she’s been extremely meticulous in all her record keeping and compliant with the law.

The company which collects taxes on all alcoholic beverages and soft drinks in Kenya is called SICPA. It’s a Swiss-based company, awarded a contract by KRA to collect taxes on their behalf. Those guys are at every distiller in the country 24/7 with their powerful computers applying excise-tax compliant QR code stickers on each beverage produced. That data is fed live on SICPA/KRA servers so at any given time they know how many beverages have been produced. When consumption is low, distillers reduce production to avoid too much tax liability. Can the DCI table their evidence otherwise this harassment of local manufacturers must stop.
Illuminati ni nini sasa????
 

Simiyu22

Village Elder
#44
Just reading this post tells me most of you have never run a corporation. Most if not billionaire companies evade and avoid tax. Most times your tax obligations come at the wrong time. Sometimes, it’s easier to correct a wrong amount ( usually an understatement) of tax dues than to pay the actual figure. How much cash do you have in the bank? How much do you owe + what do you need to operate the next 3 months without a guarantee of sales. Ask yourselves and see why companies evade / avoid tax. Properly audit any billionaire who runs a company especially as sizable as this brewery and you catch them.
 
#45
Enyewe jubilee will run motherland down... The person in KRA looks at tax with very greedy eyes, you fail to submit they come knock on your doors. Paying taxes is fine, but taxing an organization to bankruptcy is very unpatriotic.

Saa hii govt of Kenya is encouraging its youth to set up businesses, of what use are they if the taxation regime eats half of your profits before paying staff salaries? Mimi biashara nilisema siwezi weka nairobi, uku ni benchmark tu.

Back to Keroche, the govt will kill it like they did sports betting, unfortunately this time it will be a local industry being taken down. I won't look past EABL in all these, market competition brings the dirtiest of games on the floor. Am certain EABL itself doesn't pay coin for coin they earn as tax, its untenable. But because of foreign interests they sweep it under. KRA looks aside when it's someone pale juu making banking/milk deals lakini wewe jaribu tu.
 

kah tony

Village Elder
#46
Her company is being targeted because she’s become very rich and money is power. Power must never be allowed to leave Ichaweri. Illuminati tactics!
For Tabitha to survive the traps cartels have laid on her business over the years, I believe she’s been extremely meticulous in all her record keeping and compliant with the law.

The company which collects taxes on all alcoholic beverages and soft drinks in Kenya is called SICPA. It’s a Swiss-based company, which KRA awarded a contract to collect taxes on their behalf. Those guys are at every distiller in the country 24/7 with their powerful computers applying excise-tax compliant QR code stickers on each beverage produced. That data is fed live on SICPA/KRA servers so at any given time they know how many beverages have been produced. When consumption is low, distillers reduce production to avoid too much tax liability. Can the DCI table their evidence otherwise this harassment of local manufacturers must stop.
Nyina wa Uhuru...nilirudi na hata karibu hakuna!
 

Bottoms

Village Elder
#47
First learn how to tame a girlfriend before coming to stalk me? Or it was a wife?
Mbwa hii wachanga kujifanya jogoo ya kujia kila kitu. Kinyesi cha ngamia. Ghasia hii you were vocal how pure jubilee was and one of Champions wa bondo express . Why the silence now ? Or is it because jaruo is on the same plate as the dynasties ?
 

Kimakia

Village Sponsor
#48
Mbwa hii wachanga kujifanya jogoo ya kujia kila kitu. Kinyesi cha ngamia. Ghasia hii you were vocal how pure jubilee was and one of Champions wa bondo express . Why the silence now ? Or is it because jaruo is on the same plate as the dynasties ?
Don't waste your energy and time on that one
 

Backspace

Village Elder
#49
The pursuit of tax frauds is quite sincere; the govt is flat broke, and they'll do everything to pursue any single coin owed.
The brewery, betting 'sin' industries are an easy place to start the purge without attracting a lot of backlash, if any, from the masses.
It's going to get worse for these Kenyan business titans, and they know it. For instance, if Bid.co were to be put under
the same keen tax lens, red flags would be up by noon.
Huduma number was another desperate move by a broke govt. to collect as much data as possible with the sole reason of
ensuring tax compliance; a purge on the citizenry will reach high gear in the next financial year.
The fun and flair by the investigative, and enforcement bodies is meant to ensure deterrence, and encourage compliance.

*If Baba wasn't bought, and we had a formidable opposition in place, this country would be ungovernable as we speak. He'd call out
most of the BS, and the govt would have no rebuttal.
 

gashwin

Village Chief
#50
*If Baba wasn't bought, and we had a formidable opposition in place, this country would be ungovernable as we speak. He'd call out
most of the BS, and the govt would have no rebuttal.
you had a good post until you got to this line. the highlighted part points to one of the things that are wrong with our politics. we expect the opposition to fight everything the government initiates, even when the government is in a sincere effort to right wrongs.
if you look at the bigger picture, you would notice the government is in an effort to widen the tax net - and economists will tell you that when the net is wide the burden on every taxpayer becomes lighter.
 

Backspace

Village Elder
#51
you had a good post until you got to this line. the highlighted part points to one of the things that are wrong with our politics. we expect the opposition to fight everything the government initiates, even when the government is in a sincere effort to right wrongs.
if you look at the bigger picture, you would notice the government is in an effort to widen the tax net - and economists will tell you that when the net is wide the burden on every taxpayer becomes lighter.
Granted, a wider tax net is likely to result from this exercise. Fact remains that the purge is a desperate move by a govt. that has ran broke due to wanton theft, and gross mismanagement. The theft and mismanagement need to be called out, and people in govt. should be held accountable. A formidable opposition would carry out this mandate as mentioned.
 

imei2012

Village Elder
#52
Hii kitu Shiney keroche atwangie nangos Shiney ako pale KRA wamalise hii mambo pole pole.... No sense in bringing down that business am sure it employs Kenyans and support farmers plus mambo ya tax you can always come up with terms on how to achieve compliance
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gashwin

Village Chief
#53
and gross mismanagement.
some of the gross mismanagement and theft you talk about is the systemic corruption in the tax collection establishment. When the government moves in to correct munasema ni desperate move. When will you people be positive for once?
A formidable opposition would carry out this mandate as mentioned.
Kenya hatuna opposition...just a bunch of very hungry hyenas that will sleep with the devil to fatten their wallets money bags. I don't even think we need parties in this country, they don't work.
 

R_Silver

Village Elder
#54
The same courts will grant them bail/ bond, release them only the flying squad guys to rearrest them at the gate, then charge them wih new offences, they get released on some other bond/ bail... and the circus continues... after DCI? ODPP requesting court to allow them to hold the couple for 21 days to finalize investigations . No taxes will be paid... ama ni aje?
The highlighted part here has me thinking this is a bullshit charge; if the KRA has investigated the evasion from 2015, what possible further evidence does the DCI need to look for? If it is as obvious as the letter from the DPP tried to make it seem, then why are they delaying the case?

Keroche aside, I find this part of our justice system to be a circus open to manipulation. Shouldn't the investigators have gathered all the evidence they need before arresting a suspect and charging them in court?
 

mwania

Village Elder
#55
The highlighted part here has me thinking this is a bullshit charge; if the KRA has investigated the evasion from 2015, what possible further evidence does the DCI need to look for? If it is as obvious as the letter from the DPP tried to make it seem, then why are they delaying the case?

Keroche aside, I find this part of our justice system to be a circus open to manipulation. Shouldn't the investigators have gathered all the evidence they need before arresting a suspect and charging them in court?
I am writing that 'tongue-in-cheek'... they have not yet applied for that but that has been the custom in order to hold suspects as punishment for longer...
 

mwania

Village Elder
#56
The pursuit of tax frauds is quite sincere; the govt is flat broke, and they'll do everything to pursue any single coin owed.
The brewery, betting 'sin' industries are an easy place to start the purge without attracting a lot of backlash, if any, from the masses.
It's going to get worse for these Kenyan business titans, and they know it. For instance, if Bid.co were to be put under
the same keen tax lens, red flags would be up by noon.
Huduma number was another desperate move by a broke govt. to collect as much data as possible with the sole reason of
ensuring tax compliance; a purge on the citizenry will reach high gear in the next financial year.
The fun and flair by the investigative, and enforcement bodies is meant to ensure deterrence, and encourage compliance.

*If Baba wasn't bought, and we had a formidable opposition in place, this country would be ungovernable as we speak. He'd call out
most of the BS, and the govt would have no rebuttal.
I agree with you... they over-stretched their capacity... but by hounding businessmen in public and in court, they are digging deeper for many people are hesitant to invest....
 

gashwin

Village Chief
#57
I agree with you... they over-stretched their capacity... but by hounding businessmen in public and in court, they are digging deeper for many people are hesitant to invest....
We don't need an investor who will come here because he can corrupt our systems so that they don't pay taxes. Wakwende huko....
 
#58
you had a good post until you got to this line. the highlighted part points to one of the things that are wrong with our politics. we expect the opposition to fight everything the government initiates, even when the government is in a sincere effort to right wrongs.
if you look at the bigger picture, you would notice the government is in an effort to widen the tax net - and economists will tell you that when the net is wide the burden on every taxpayer becomes lighter.
Why would a Sincere government spare the cba/nic a tax bill of 400 million and go ahead to launch an Akiba bond targeting 700 million on which it will be expected to pay about 70 million in interest?
 

mwania

Village Elder
#59
We don't need an investor who will come here because he can corrupt our systems so that they don't pay taxes. Wakwende huko....
Tax payment is not debatable... and the follow up and even prosecution where necessary is not the issue really... it it the unnecessary drama they bring into this... this is a serious issue and drama is not equal to tax compliance...
 

gashwin

Village Chief
#60
Why would a Sincere government spare the cba/nic a tax bill of 400 million and go ahead to launch an Akiba bond targeting 700 million on which it will be expected to pay about 70 million in interest?
I don't know and I don't really know why you directed the question to me. Why don't you tweet Government Spokesman, Col. Oguna?
 

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