The Great Announcement on 25th (your predictions please)

Tarantinoh

Village Sponsor
#61
What makes you think that parts of Ukambani that voted Raila 80% and Coast that voted Raila 70% will go out and vote yet Raila maintains no voting? How now? Do you think Wetangula's and Mudavadi's home town will go and vote? For who? Uhuru?

Am genuinely curious. Gimme a genuine reason that isn't the usual chest thumping.
So Kambas will kill their own kin over Raila? That may only happen in Luo Nyanza but I also don't see it happen.
 

MuBig

Village Elder
#62
Do u know what I mean by elections happening? So elections happening= voting in ouru....That's gospel according to Mubig? Huh?
Define 'elections happening'
I took it to mean the phenomena whereby people vote during the D-day.
I didn't think of it as the situation where IEBC sets up their poll stations and nobody comes out to vote.

Btw,I am basing this on the fact that Raila doesn't want any elections (read voting) to happen. This means that whoever votes is not in favour of Raila. Anyone who thinks a voter on 26th will go vote for Raila is a moron.
 

MuBig

Village Elder
#63
So Kambas will kill their own kin over Raila? That may only happen in Luo Nyanza but I also don't see it happen.
Places like Kitui voted Raila 85%. They can simply intimidate the 15% not to go and vote. A simple demonstration as announced by Raila on 25th to happen on 26th will deter anyone from showing up at the polling station. And anyway, death is not necessarily the only option. They can simply stigmatise and cut the voters of from the society. Nobody is willing to be a social misfit in exchange for muthamaki being on the throne, I assure you.
 

kwido

Village Elder
#64
Define 'elections happening'
I took it to mean the phenomena whereby people vote during the D-day.
I didn't think of it as the situation where IEBC sets up their poll stations and nobody comes out to vote.

Btw,I am basing this on the fact that Raila doesn't want any elections (read voting) to happen. This means that whoever votes is not in favour of Raila. Anyone who thinks a voter on 26th will go vote for Raila is a moron.
Question, supposing an electoral body in a country A opens a polling station with all electoral materials and human resources ready. And it so happens, none of the registered voters in that polling station turns up. Would we say elections didn't happen?
 

IsMundu

Village Elder
#65
Question, supposing an electoral body in a country A opens a polling station with all electoral materials and human resources ready. And it so happens, none of the registered voters in that polling station turns up. Would we say elections didn't happen?
This scenario already played out on 8/8.
 
#66
If Chebukati doesn't resign by then:

This is what will happen
On 25th, Raila will announce 'peaceful demonstrations' for 26th across NASA counties

On 26th,yes, there will be elections. However, the elections will happen in Jubilee strongholds only. Even the swing counties won't vote since they will be in fear. The army cannot protect someone forever. If anyone goes to vote, the assumption shall be that they voted Jubilee (since NASA said no elections) and shall thus be killed by NASA goons after Army leaves. This intimidation will work in counties that gave Uhuru votes of upto 40% as voters will be intimidated not to vote kwa maana usiku watakujiwa na NASA

Later, Results will be announced and Uhuru will have won with a lower number of votes since all swing county voters will not vote due to threats of their lives after voting(not during). It may take days but those who vote in swing counties or counties that voted Uhuru less than 35% will be killed.

Later, the country will erupt into chaos and violence.

Much as I am RWNEBP, I will not pretend that elections will go on in the country except the 4 Luo counties. The Coast, most of Ukambani, Kisii, Turkana and Luhya land will not vote. Nobody will risk their life to go and vote then later be killed after police leaves. Police can't protect voters forever
You have no clue what the Army is do you? You think ni ma AP? Call an old uncle or your parent ask them vile kulikuwa 1982. Then call up a friend in Nanyuki ask them what would be the remotest chance of a protest. Even pamba anajua hawezi jaribu leta ujeuri mahali jeshi iko. All polling stations will be secured what I foresee is some NASA voters not voting if not all if the army gets deployed.
 

Tarantinoh

Village Sponsor
#67
Places like Kitui voted Raila 85%. They can simply intimidate the 15% not to go and vote. A simple demonstration as announced by Raila on 25th to happen on 26th will deter anyone from showing up at the polling station. And anyway, death is not necessarily the only option. They can simply stigmatise and cut the voters of from the society. Nobody is willing to be a social misfit in exchange for muthamaki being on the throne, I assure you.
You assume alot. So Raila call for boycott is over and above kinship? Re read what you have written. There is life outside politics and political affiliations.
 
#68
Define 'elections happening'
I took it to mean the phenomena whereby people vote during the D-day.
I didn't think of it as the situation where IEBC sets up their poll stations and nobody comes out to vote.

Btw,I am basing this on the fact that Raila doesn't want any elections (read voting) to happen. This means that whoever votes is not in favour of Raila. Anyone who thinks a voter on 26th will go vote for Raila is a moron.
Why don’t we wait for the IEBC to count votes then we’ll know that nobody voted for Raila
 
#70
A lot is happening at the commission, but if I may ask you, what does Chebukati want Raila and Uhuru to agree on
Chebukati wants them to have a gentleman agreement that elections on 26th is not feasible, so we all agree, no one takes the other to court, to claim illegitimate govt is in place or else all the 3 main players, go to Supreme court and ask for extension of the period.
Uhuru to remain in power but Electoral changes to be made fully.
Uhuru is suspicious of what may arise afterwards. If you are keen enough you would have noticed that it is Ruto (URP Members, duale, murkomen etc) who goes to this meetings, why, he is fearful a deal maybe striked while he is not there.

My question can Chebukati evoke this Article 55B about postponement of elections if the commission believes that serious breach of peace may occur, or an occurrence to make elections impossible to proceed.

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Gustavo

Village Elder
#71
Chebukati wants them to have a gentleman agreement that elections on 26th is not feasible, so we all agree, no one takes the other to court, to claim illegitimate govt is in place or else all the 3 main players, go to Supreme court and ask for extension of the period.
Uhuru to remain in power but Electoral changes to be made fully.
Uhuru is suspicious of what may arise afterwards. If you are keen enough you would have noticed that it is Ruto (URP Members, duale, murkomen etc) who goes to this meetings, why, he is fearful a deal maybe striked while he is not there.

My question can Chebukati evoke this Article 55B about postponement of elections if the commission believes that serious breach of peace may occur, or an occurrence to make elections impossible to proceed.

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this is what is going to happen in the next few days
 

Ubongo

Village Elder
#72
Chebukati wants them to have a gentleman agreement that elections on 26th is not feasible, so we all agree, no one takes the other to court, to claim illegitimate govt is in place or else all the 3 main players, go to Supreme court and ask for extension of the period.
Uhuru to remain in power but Electoral changes to be made fully.
Uhuru is suspicious of what may arise afterwards. If you are keen enough you would have noticed that it is Ruto (URP Members, duale, murkomen etc) who goes to this meetings, why, he is fearful a deal maybe striked while he is not there.

My question can Chebukati evoke this Article 55B about postponement of elections if the commission believes that serious breach of peace may occur, or an occurrence to make elections impossible to proceed.

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But Mungai it doesn't state postponement of the whole country if I had read well
 
#73
But Mungai it doesn't state postponement of the whole country if I had read well
Yeees, it does not say whole country but if read with Article 138 (2), read, each constituency, of the constitution then it warrants postponement.
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Believe you me, if everything stays the same, Monday expect a big announcement.
 

Mzichi

Village Elder
#77
Yeees, it does not say whole country but if read with Article 138 (2), read, each constituency, of the constitution then it warrants postponement.
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Believe you me, if everything stays the same, Monday expect a big announcement.
Elections will only be postponed where it is evident SAFETY is not guaranteed. Even after postponement, if the areas do not have enough votes to cgange the outcome of the election a winner shall be called. In every constituency in the country there will be voting i.e, there will be polling stations open and ready for business on the 26th. From the look of things, it will be to dangerous to carry out elections in a few zones. At the end of the day, the postponed zones will not have enough votes to overturn the elections.
 

Ubongo

Village Elder
#78
Yeees, it does not say whole country but if read with Article 138 (2), read, each constituency, of the constitution then it warrants postponement.
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Believe you me, if everything stays the same, Monday expect a big announcement.
Let's wait and see ,remember Iebc has already trained election officials, game changer hapa ni Chebukati mwenyewe, baba is sure that some of his supporters will still vote for him despite being told not to
 

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