The only policy Africans should copy from the Chinese..

The purge of Islamic fundamentalism and evangelical Christianity from the Chinese society is maybe the best decisions the Communist Party of China has made so far. Religion is a worse ‘virus’ than HIV. What HIV does, on a micro scale, to an individual’s immunity is what Religion does on a macro scale to society. It’s only that it corrodes the human spirit instead. It dilutes a society’s collective curiosity, passion, and ingenuity. Why pursue great ambitions when there is a promise of eternal life?

It’s no surprise that you’re hearing even Trump rant about Uighur Muslims, human right blah blah blah, we all know he doesn’t give a fuck about Muslims or humans rights! It’s just that anything that can potentially slow china’s ascendancy is a boon to the US.

Bad take.

Agreed 100%

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[SIZE=7]The only policy Africans should copy from the Chinese… [/SIZE][SIZE=4]such a sucky post, a borefest. Your solution to everything is abandoning faith? [/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]young sponsor: babe can i come over tonight? [/SIZE]
Girlfriend : no problem(over the phone)

Young sponsor: arrives at his mroro lokeshen decides to take a peak through the window first.
shock!! A man of the collar(fake pastor) ana mbija his girlfriend kinyau.

Girlfriend:noticing young sponsor she utters ’ its not what it looks like.

Young sponsor: goes nuts

Nigga priss, wengine wetu religion imetufanya tuwe watu wazuri.

Kichwa imejaa uji tu.

Are you seriously this stupid!!!

Are you seriously this dense???!

The Church is the number 1 human rights activist in any country on earth. Moi used to get serious heat from the likes of Muge, Gitari, Nzeki, Njoya etc.

That is why in fascist and socialist states it is the the first institution to be kicked out because they will question the dictator and his purges. Do you know what a purge is?

A purge is the removal of anything that stands in the way of socialism?

You jail them or just kill them outright. And the church will question the killings and you don’t want that as the communist dictator.

In a socialist purge you don’t want moral assholes asking why you just purged 50,000 Jews from Russian town X!

You don’t want the buddhist monks and the few remaining churches in China asking why you just grabbed land from the bourgeois and murdered all the industrialists.

The church will question Chairman Mao on why he just starved 70 million people with his agrarian revolution… and he certainly doesn’t entertsin such questions from enemies against his “cause”.

You have a very limited and warped grasp of history and a limited understanding of the social-economic forces that shape various societies. For instance, Mao’s policies did cause starvation, but unless you’re an ignorant simpleton, you should also know that there is more to the story. It was a case of the lower bureaucrat lying to higher up and the chain of lies extending to the top and so by the time data reached the decision makers at the top it’d be grossly exaggerated. So the top (Mao) was making decisions based on faulty and practically useless data. The whole starvation fiasco was more of an indictment on centrally planned economies, and the ‘ass-kissing, do everything to impress your boss’ nature of the then Chinese bureaucracy.

And no! The church doesn’t defend human rights unless their interests are at stake, for instance, the church supported Moi’s autocracy, church leaders like Njoya were outliers, the rest were in Moi’s pockets. Currently, the church is nurturing a budding autocracy by taking stolen money from Ruto. This is also true for every dictatorship in Christian nations. For instance, General Franco of Spain was supported by the catholic church. You’re simply ignorant or not very bright.

:rolleyes:The problem about the religion as a topic is mostly discussed in a 2D, white light view. whilst it should be discussed in a 6D discussion thats getting infused with 7 colors of the rainbow. China functions as an authoritarian dystopia that has scrapped religion but also has worked very hard to make its population riche :oops: so they won’t need hope ie. A religion, and it works somehow for many parts of that Atheistic society. Eventually when this society becomes a middle income society religion will die naturally as it has done in other parts of the world since its doctrine is its pitfall. Case closed

Pros and cons on both ends as the endless ppl died in the christian crusades. Hitler used the bible to create nationalism movement to exterminate jews, Bla bla bla. :rolleyes: as stated above, The problem about the religion as a topic is mostly discussed in a 2D, white light view. whilst it should be discussed in a 6D discussion thats getting infused with 7 colors of the rainbow. go figure (There is an abotion formular taught by the israelite god on how to abort to the priests)

Nowadays there seems to be very concerted efforts by Kenyan atheists to sell their propaganda to Kenyans. Kwani mnalipwa na nani kuuza propaganda?

(Either that or you are an eager mod trying to trigger the usual never ending atheist debates .)

And you guys seem to be everywhere on Kenya’s social space. If you love China, their atheism and socialism so much why not move there :

In China, they’re closing churches, jailing pastors – and even rewriting scripture | China | The Guardian

https://www.ozy.com/acumen/xis-crackdown-on-religion-is-chinas-worst-in-40-years/95719/

Today’s church has gone to sleep with the state and the perpetrators of corruption and every wicked thing. The church of today cannot be compared to that of thirty years ago. Their rallying call is “seek ye first the kingdom of the world”.

The starvation was caused an idiot who took over private farms for redistribution and then thought that food would drop from the sky like manna. Complete idiot. He also thought he could force small time village farmers with rudimentary farming skills to feed millions of people.

You don’t know what you’ve got till you lose it. The guy who posted this thread argues that guys like Njoya were outliers whereas every other religious leader like Manasses Kuria was pro govt.

What he doesn’t understand is that those “pro-govt” pastors were also pestering Moi but diplomatically and through back room channels.

And there’s no time ati the church didn’t have critics. Even that thirty years ago that you speak of, there were genuine preachers and fakes.

For Example, Nairobi 1988 :

You’re a bit slow…

You are an idiot because you want to make it appear as if religion is bad just because of a few bad apples in the preaching trade.

And yet the Bible itself repeats several times that false teachers will indeed exist and Christians should be wary of them.

It’s akin to you saying that because quacks exist in the medical field, then all hospitals should be closed down.

Also the Bible reiterates that God hates LAZINESS. So that part where you have said ati religion tells people to seat back and wait for eternity hio ni maongo yako. Jesus Himself gave several parables castigating laziness e.g. The parable of the talents , where two workers were entrusted with investments… one worker multiplied his investment… the other one sat around waiting for the master to return so he could return his investment as it was given to him.

And how does religion do this exactly? How?

And yet it is the religious institutions that built almost all the schools and universities on earth? Without the church few today would be literate. And you have no idea about how much research that we enjoy today that was funded via the church.

You’re just regurgitating the usual crap, religion was important when our understanding of the world was limited and our values were still primitive, so you’re right. But it’s lost its relevance, that research, that religious institutions partially funded, has widened our understanding of our physiology, psychology, ethics, universe etc. And, our values have evolved. Digging into the bible for answers is just a tale of bonobo’s lack of intellectual rigor. The civilized world is creating artificial intellect, doing genetic sequencing, building robots+ nano robots, sending out interstellar probes, cloning, gene editing, and you still think the bible with it’s historical, geographical, and scientific errors is still relevant?

Can you Google top Christians in science before coming here to make wild, unsubstantiated claims.

Here is a partial list of a few world renowned researchers and scientists and yet devout Christians :

List of Christians in science and technology - Wikipedia

I for one personally know of the Brigham Young University a renowned Christian campus and one of the top research universities on earth. And the alumni list from that campus speak for themselves if you care to Google them. And that’s just one campus. A lot of research known today was in fact commissioned by or funded by the church.

What groundbreaking research, especially in the industries of the future ( Robotics, Advanced Life sciences, Big Data) is coming out of BYU? What’s it’s comparative importance? How much are the BYU researchers borrowing from the bible in their research?