We want to bring democracy to Iraq...so they said

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Trump has called for massive sanctions to Iraq if they order American troops out of the country. Iraq's sanctions will make Iran's look like childplay says American's Supreme leader. Iran fully exercised theie democracy by ordering the troops out. Hence the question, which democracy were they promoting in the region then if they are imposing sanctions.



 
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ChifuMbitika

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We must allow the US to restore sanity where there is none in the world. Were it not for the super power, small nations could have been obliterated long ago by nations like China and Russia.
 

langatkipro

Village Elder
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We must allow the US to restore sanity where there is none in the world. Were it not for the super power, small nations could have been obliterated long ago by nations like China and Russia.
China and Russia are not war like nations. They have not invaded any nations by far. America is a threat to the world peace. They have caused instability of many nations on the earth as far as i can remember Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Syria and now they want to do the same to Iran. If they are mwanaume they could have invaded Russia when it took over the territory of Crimea.
 
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Teddy_time

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Its like asking why wajir wants the locusts to leave. Its called an invasion.....clearly middle east hates america so yeah iraq wants them to leave despite the fact that they are there to 'protect' the iraqis but clearly they are protecting its interests...now iran starts to look pretty interesting
Actually there are several middle eastern countries who happily host US troops like Kuwait. If the US troops leave Iraq, a power vacuum will form and no prizes for guessing who will fill that power vacuum... Iran.

And by the way, this is not only in the middle east. Countries like Poland and other Eastern European ones have been trying to get the US to host its troops there. So comparing the US to locusts seems like a knee-jerk reaction on your part
 

Teddy_time

Village Elder
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China and Russia are not war like nations. They have not invaded any nations by far. America is a threat to the world peace. They have cause instability of many nations on the earth as far as i can remember Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Syria and now they want to do the same to Iran. If they are mwanaume they could have invaded Russia when it took over the territory of Crimea.
My friend, ever hear of the soviet Invasion of these countries just prior to WW2:
Finland
Poland
Latvia
Estonia
Lithuania
Bulgaria

Also, lets not forget that they invaded Hungary, East Germany and Czechoslavakia in soviet times. Also Afghanistan

And juzi under putin they have invaded Georgia and Ukraine...

The chinese have invaded several territories in their long history like Vietnam (they have done this several times during their past 1000 years) and Tibet.

This notion that Americans are Evil and Russia and China could never hurt a fly is extremely misguided.
 

ChifuMbitika

Village Sponsor
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My friend, ever hear of the soviet Invasion of these countries just prior to WW2:
Finland
Poland
Latvia
Estonia
Lithuania
Bulgaria

And juzi under putin they have invaded Georgia and Ukraine...

The chinese have invaded several territories in their long history like Vietnam (they have done this several times during their past 1000 years) and Tibet.

This notion that Americans are Evil and Russia and China could never hurt a fly is extremely misguided.
Very true. China and Russia are rogue states but thank Yahweh, America is there to check on their excesses
 
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Actually there are several middle eastern countries who happily host US troops like Kuwait. If the US troops leave Iraq, a power vacuum will form and no prizes for guessing who will fill that power vacuum... Iran.

And by the way, this is not only in the middle east. Countries like Poland and other Eastern European ones have been trying to get the US to host its troops there. So comparing the US to locusts seems like a knee-jerk reaction on your part
Hosting US troops is not the same as being occupied. If there are so many other countries that happily host them, why are they threatening sanctions when asked to leave? Si they transfer their troops to those other countries that are eager to host them?
 
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My friend, ever hear of the soviet Invasion of these countries just prior to WW2:
Finland
Poland
Latvia
Estonia
Lithuania
Bulgaria

And juzi under putin they have invaded Georgia and Ukraine...

The chinese have invaded several territories in their long history like Vietnam (they have done this several times during their past 1000 years) and Tibet.

This notion that Americans are Evil and Russia and China could never hurt a fly is extremely misguided.
You are taking about Soviet union and we are talking about the current day Russia, those are two different things. Tibet is recognized by even UN as part of China, so what invasion are you talking about. On the contrary USA has made many nations unstable and turn them to war zones through bombings such as Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Somalia and others. Many innocent lives have been lost in this useless wars caused by USA the aggressor. The next step they want to do is to make an up to now stable nation of Iran to be another war zone
 

Teddy_time

Village Elder
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You are taking about Soviet union and we are talking about the current day Russia, those are two different things. Tibet is recognized by even UN as part of China, so what invasion are you talking about. On the contrary USA has made many nations unstable and turn them to war zones through bombings such as Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Somalia and others. Many innocent lives have been lost in this useless wars caused by USA the aggressor. The next step they want to do is to make an up to now stable nation of Iran to be another war zone
Even modern day Russia has invaded Georgia and Ukraine as I pointed out.

The UN may recognize it but these guys were invaded by China a few hundred years back and they dont wanna be part of China. Also China invaded vietnam sometime in the 70s.

By the way, the US will most of the time have a good reason for going to war with another country. Please let me know which country they have invaded "uselessly".

Russia is the one that invaded Afghanistan, Ukraine and Georgia "uselessly"
 
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Even modern day Russia has invaded Georgia and Ukraine as I pointed out.

The UN may recognize it but these guys were invaded by China a few hundred years back and they dont wanna be part of China. Also China invaded vietnam sometime in the 70s.

By the way, the US will most of the time have a good reason for going to war with another country. Please let me know which country they have invaded "uselessly".

Russia is the one that invaded Afghanistan, Ukraine and Georgia "uselessly"
Tell me those genuine reasons you are arguing for, were the weapons that were so claimed found in Iraq, did overthrowing Gaddafi make Libya stable, did supporting the rebel group stabilized Syria and Yemen. One thing for sure if you are careful to apply your mind to understanding, the world would be now a better safe place without much terrorism if America decided not to meddle in the internal affairs of other countries.
 
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Tell me those genuine reasons you are arguing for, were the weapons that were so claimed found in Iraq, did overthrowing Gaddafi make Libya stable, did supporting the rebel group stabilized Syria and Yemen. One thing for sure if you are careful to apply your mind to understanding, the world would be now a better safe place without much terrorism if America decided not to meddle in the internal affairs of other countries.
@Teddy_time from his other "arguments" here, is pro-America ile mbaya. Good luck having a reasonable discussion with him. By his logic, we should blame present-day Italy for the Roman empire's atrocities.
 

Teddy_time

Village Elder
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Tell me those genuine reasons you are arguing for, were the weapons that were so claimed found in Iraq, did overthrowing Gaddafi make Libya stable, did supporting the rebel group stabilized Syria and Yemen. One thing for sure if you are careful to apply your mind to understanding, the world would be now a better safe place without much terrorism if America decided not to meddle in the internal affairs of other countries.
Iraq: The fact is sadaam would still be in power if he hadnt invaded kuwait. Or do you condone his invasion of kuwait?
Gadaffi: This was more of a French operation than an American one.
Support for rebel groups: This is done to prevent the threat posed to the US by terrorist groups. Kenya herself is in Somalia and supports a rebel leader in the southern part of the country that borders kenya. You expect the US to sit back and wait for another 911?

Believe me the world would be a more lawless place without the US hedgemon around. Btw, is there a particular country you would to replace the US as the worlds leading superpower?
 

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