What if we treated their substandard exports the same way? What if we chose to retaliate?

Since time immemorial, socialists have ALWAYS been experts at playing the victim.

That’s what socialism is all about. Propaganda. Lies. Playing the victim.

I’ll give you one PERFECT example!!

The socialist trained RAILA AMOLO ODINGA and his acolytes.

Raila will always be the victim. Socialist rule book, page one, chapter one : ALWAYS PLAY THE VICTIM!! And never accept blame, EVER!!

Raila will always be the one who was wronged. :D:D:D

ALWAYS!!!

The less said about that, the better.

Haya look at comrade Nyerere… he,was always complaining that Kenyans especially Kikuyus stole Tz’s glory. We hoodwinked them. We cheated them.

Nyerere was always the victim. Even when he completely fucked up the economy… it was somebody else’s fault. Not him.

Yeye ndio alikosewa na Kenyans…

Look at Venezuela…

The CIA is apparently “preventing Venezuela” from growing food crops and feeding herself…

Trump wants their oil…

VICTIM MENTALITY.

How powerful is this America to prevent you from growing your own food in your own lands ??? How powerful is this CIA?

VICTIM.

Look at North Korea…

‘America keeps us down!’ The lie the dictator uses daily to control the masses. Victim.

Kuja Russia. Putin VS the evil west. Victim. Yeye achukue Ukraine but he is just an innocent victim. Assad another socialist, just an innocent victim. Kills his own citizens but nikuonewa. His family has the God given right to rule forever…

Victim.

Look at Stalin. Kills millions upon millions but he is still the innocent victim under attack from the capitalist pig…

Look at Mugabe…

The other socialist. Fucks up his country’s economy but it’s not his fault… it’s Tony Blair… it’s the imperialist Queen and her British settlers… they are to blame…

He then protects his fellow socialist Mengistu who murdered millions in Ethiopia.

Look at China. They have fucked up copyrights and intellectual property rights for decades. But today they are the victims against the “vicious Trump” and his trade war. Why won’t Trump just let us steal phones in peace??! We have a right to steal and to sell in ALL the markets. :D:D

NOW JUST TRY AND REVERSE THE TABLES.

Let China invent something (which is a highly unlikely scenario) halafu U.S. iibe hio invention…

eeeh. Mwuone reaction. Ndio mtajua.

Kuja hapa Kenya.

These Chinese fellows have been dumping crap in our country for years!!

Their factories dump crap in our rivers but you try and do the same in China. Just try!!!

China owns Kenya. They own our shops. Uhuru has opened the doors even further thinking they are good friends. Our trade deficit is $4 billion dollars for China VS $0 dollars for Kenya.

We export ZERO to China. Uhuru manages to secure avocado exports.

To send those avocadoes to China is next to a miracle. 'Tis impossible.

Wao wasiulizwe. They are the VICTIMS, remember. They can dump all they want. But you try and export to their country.

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[SIZE=6]China institutes tough rules for avocado farmers[/SIZE]

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[li]Kenya’s journey to the 1.4 billion strong Chinese market has taken seven years as Beijing has been uncomfortable with the presence of fruit flies in Nairobi’s avocados.[/li][li]The requirements they gave in order to have local avocados flown to Beijing are more stringent than those of the existing markets.[/li][li]KenTrade CEO Amos Wangora said the way out for farmers is to pool together in cooperatives so as to enjoy the economies of scale.[/li][/ul]
A logistical nightmare and the high costs of meeting tough conditions required for the export of Kenyan avocados to China are threatening to choke the lucrative deal inked last month.

The stringent conditions, which include requiring a farmer to peel and freeze the fruit before export, could lock out thousands of small-scale farmers who are eyeing the world’s largest market.
According to the rules seen by Saturday Nation, a farmer has to instal machines and coolers for peeling and freezing of the fruit ahead of export.
They will have to freeze the peeled fruits to negative 30 degrees Celsius and chill further to negative 18 degrees while on transit to the destination.

This means that farmers will have to invest heavily in cold rooms and meticulously follow all the requirements to reap from the deal billed as the game changer for Kenya’s agriculture.
The peeling and freezing requirement adds to 56 steps a trader has to take shuttling from one government agency to another to get an avocado export clearance.
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[li]Uhuru inks avocado deal with China[/li][li]Mauritius lifts ban on avocados[/li][/ul]

FRUIT FLIES
Kenya Plant Health Inspectorate Service (Kephis) on Friday warned the conditions set by the Chinese might limit small-scale farmers’ access to the market.
“Given the requirements, most small-scale farmers cannot afford to sell their avocados to China,” Kephis Managing Director Esther Kimani said.
The peeling of the fruit before freezing is a new condition for the export of avocados.
It is not in the regulations guiding export of the fruit to existing export markets, including the European Union, the Middle East and Asia.

Kenya’s journey to the 1.4 billion strong Chinese market has taken seven years as Beijing has been uncomfortable with the presence of fruit flies in Nairobi’s avocados.

It took an okay from Chinese inspectors in March and a visit to the Asian nation by President Uhuru Kenyatta in April to unlock the deal.

COOPERATIVES
The inspectors from the Chinese National Plant Protection Organisation flew in to undertake a rigorous risk analysis - including inspection of local avocado fruits, farms, laboratories and holding bays for the fruit at the airports.

While they gave a clean bill of health that led to the signing of the bilateral pact, the requirements they gave in order to have local avocados flown to Beijing are more stringent than those of the existing markets.
A kilogramme of avocado fetches up to Sh2,000 ($20) in China compared to Kenya’s Sh80, while avocado powder in the Asian country could earn up to Sh10,000 per kilo.
“If we do not comply, China will suspend the exports and continuous non-compliance will lead to a total ban,” warned Dr Kimani, saying Kephis had upped its antenna to protect the deal.

Mr Amos Wangora, the CEO of KenTrade, an agency that facilitates export business, said the way out for farmers is to pool together in cooperatives so as to enjoy the economies of scale around transport, refrigeration and other expenses.
COMMITMENT
Fresh Produce Consortium of Kenya (FPCK) chief executive Okisegere Ojepat said that the Chinese want frozen fruits because they are still wary of fruit flies, scales, and traceability issues.

wewe tofee ni ngombe ya zebu,huoni peeling avocados ni kuongeza job opportunity?, ni wamama na visu

but capitalism isn’t any better

:D:D The peeling and freezing requirement adds to 56 steps a trader has to take shuttling from one government agency to another to get an avocado export clearance.

56 STEPS!!

Fruit flies my foot… :D:D

As if a Kenyan has ever complained when a fake Chinese electrical switch burned down his house.

Does the price of the end product justify the cost of processing. Farmers have to rippen the avocadoes and peel them and store them at -30 degrees. It is costly and inconviniencing, so many thing can go wrong

What is america doing in Venezuela. Si wakae kwao.

kenya kilo ni 80 huko china the same kilo ni 2000,

Juu naskia umekula chumvi I hope uliuliza what Smith Hempstone was doing in Kenya helping opposition in the early 90s. Why was he helping to bring multiparty and yet Madu… sorry … and yet Moi was an “excellent leader”?

You just played the victim by blaming China for your Avocado problems.

Why should China care that you want to sell avocados? Eat your own product, or create your own market if you are self-sufficient. :stuck_out_tongue:

funny, now that you mention him huyo tulikula nyama sana naye naivasha. MHSRIP

China is just blocking foreign exporters kama kawa. Socialist markets are heavily state controlled. They are not free markets. You can’t penetrate the Chinese market. China even devalues the Renminbi so her goods are super cheap as compared to imports ndio Chinese wenyewe wasi consume imports, wakule tu zao. It’s called currency manipulation.

It also keeps their exports very cheap. MEANWHILE they want 100% access to everyone else’s market. That’s not fair.

Thats why China has insane trade deficits against most countries because of dumping.

This is very insightful. The victim mentality is the reason many are peasants.

They want un-restricted markets to every market, but exporting to them is controlled and limited, the Govt should introduce insane conditions for specific chinese goods in KE, wanabeba watu kimalenge sana… but the world is slowly coming to that realization.

US has started giving them the middle finger.

That’s what has been bringing delays at the port…

What jobs!..farmers will have to pool together and ‘buy’ avocado peeling machines from the same China,…so are the coolers and cold rooms. Ama ulikuwa unafikiri ni wamama watakaa hapo chini ya mti wakitoa makodofia ngozi!

Peel 30 or 40 million avocadoes by hand. :D:D

Zitaoza kabla wamalize. Na tena ujue zingine watachonga wakitupa kwa mdomo.

There will have to be a plant near the airport. Zinaletwa haraka upesi juu ni perishable, zina peeliwa na zinatupwa kwa ndege within a few minutes.

Why not just let them arrive in China with the skin on? Can you imagine handling ‘mooshy’ avocadoes i.e. the care needed to handle them? And then imagine all the plastic waste generated just for packaging and sealing the naked avocadoes.

Peeling si itapunguza weight given that they will be peeling raw fruits? Substantial ‘meat’ will be lost in the process, I guess. But again 56 steps?

wanataka ikiwa powder

We tried doing the same with their fish as they’re doing with our avocados, wakazusha sana.