Who created God?

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Euler

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#61
#61
2eyeperto said:
It makes no sense, asking who created God.
If you want to prove that all religions are BS from logical side, it is extremely stupid. Also, the people who try to prove the existence of God are stupid. God has nothing to do with the concepts that we got used to use in our everyday life and on our planet. God is transcendental which means that God exists outside out world of real things. We know nothing about that environment, so, we don't know the laws of that environment which implies that perhaps there is no time or space or anything else. Belief in God is just belief and it depends on you whether you want to believe in that or not. No possible scientific proofs are possible here, so asking such questions will only bring about some arguments and conflicts but they will never make us understand the truth. What does make sense is what cause the Big Bang. I suggest you to address your energy and resources to learning about this fact as knowing the truth will help us understand much more about the universe we live in and about ourselves.
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Are you suggesting that God exists outside of the space-time continuum? If yes, how do you know yet you are within this continuum? How do you understand something outside the 4 dimensions of spacetime?
 
Arnono

Arnono

Village Elder
#62
#62
Mgaza mkongwe said:
Who has claimed there's life outside earth if there is he/she's no scientist. Life outside earth would not violate nature but a God would and that's why they say it's possible to have life outside earth since the building blocks of life are abundant in the cosmos. You have to prove the possibility of a god/gods for them to be considered an option
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We're even yet to comprehend what brings about life and death from the scientific angle, let's not even go about with building blocks for life, since we may be surprised by what we really think builds life.
What's there to prove on an Intelligent Creator when we can all see around us. Nature is intelligent in an entropic universe, this is not the work of a mere man.
 
Arnono

Arnono

Village Elder
#63
#63
Euler said:
A very good question. The likes of @Purple ask atheists: "where did the cell that evolved come from"? The more sophisticated ones ask: "who created the conditions that led to the big bang explosion?". Now I ask, where did their god or gods come from?
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god(s) came about once man began living in community and began agriculture. The gods are majorly made to mirror seasons of the community, e.g Horus and Set.
Now the question to you, is it possible for the universe in it's age, marvel and infinite complexity, to come out of nothing?
 
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Euler

Village Elder
#64
#64
Arnono said:
god(s) came about once man began living in community and began agriculture. The gods are majorly made to mirror seasons of the community, e.g Horus and Set.
Now the question to you, is it possible for the universe in it's age, marvel and infinite complexity, to come out of nothing?
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So we have agreed gods including the christian God are man-made? Now to your question, it is not possible for all that is there to come out of nothing.
 
Arnono

Arnono

Village Elder
#65
#65
Euler said:
So we have agreed gods including the christian God are man-made? Now to your question, it is not possible for all that is there to come out of nothing.
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I've given the logical angle to how gods came about. About the God of Trinity, it can't be argued from this angle, since christianity came after old gods were already in place.
Since it's not possible for something out of nothing, it is agreeable for an Intelligent Creator. This creator is responsible for all we know and the many more that we don't, and we as men have given infinite names in relation to seasons, morality, life and death. It's not right to argue from the nihilist angle on creation. What I do agree with you is the hijacking and forced makeup of what the creator is like by us men to suit our own interests. It's been that way from a long time and it is a cause for strife in our Here-Now.
 
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Euler

Village Elder
#66
#66
Arnono said:
I've given the logical angle to how gods came about. About the God of Trinity, it can't be argued from this angle, since christianity came after old gods were already in place.
Since it's not possible for something out of nothing, it is agreeable for an Intelligent Creator. This creator is responsible for all we know and the many more that we don't, and we as men have given infinite names in relation to seasons, morality, life and death. It's not right to argue from the nihilist angle on creation. What I do agree with you is the hijacking and forced makeup of what the creator is like by us men to suit our own interests. It's been that way from a long time and it is a cause for strife in our Here-Now.
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Going by your logic, God does not qualify to "something"?
 
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Viking35

Village Elder
#67
#67
wakimemia said:
Religious people argue that the universe is so perfectly designed and highly complex that a supernatural being must have created it. If we adopt the argument, can't we say that God is even much more complex than the universe itself. So who created him?
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Everything is a mystery,nobody knows how we came to be
God is an idea brought about as an explanation to the origin of the universe.You can't claim there's a god and you don't know how that God came to be
 
Mosa

Mosa

Village Elder
#70
#70
wakimemia said:
Religious people argue that the universe is so perfectly designed and highly complex that a supernatural being must have created it. If we adopt the argument, can't we say that God is even much more complex than the universe itself. So who created him?
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Could it be Goliath??
 
Arnono

Arnono

Village Elder
#71
#71
Euler said:
Going by your logic, God does not qualify to "something"?
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The universe from our angle as men is material, a nihilist angle just doesn't make sense.
For the Creator, I don't want to be those who paste imagined characteristics and attributes to this. What's common sense though, is that there is a Creator.
 
Stormtrooper98

Stormtrooper98

Village Elder
#73
#73
2eyeperto said:
It makes no sense, asking who created God.
If you want to prove that all religions are BS from logical side, it is extremely stupid. Also, the people who try to prove the existence of God are stupid. God has nothing to do with the concepts that we got used to use in our everyday life and on our planet. God is transcendental which means that God exists outside out world of real things. We know nothing about that environment, so, we don't know the laws of that environment which implies that perhaps there is no time or space or anything else. Belief in God is just belief and it depends on you whether you want to believe in that or not. No possible scientific proofs are possible here, so asking such questions will only bring about some arguments and conflicts but they will never make us understand the truth. What does make sense is what cause the Big Bang. I suggest you to address your energy and resources to learning about this fact as knowing the truth will help us understand much more about the universe we live in and about ourselves.
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If God exists outside our world of real things, how then do you know God exists? Do you have access to outside our world of real things?
 
Stormtrooper98

Stormtrooper98

Village Elder
#74
#74
Arnono said:
The universe from our angle as men is material, a nihilist angle just doesn't make sense.
For the Creator, I don't want to be those who paste imagined characteristics and attributes to this. What's common sense though, is that there is a Creator.
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If there is a creator then who created the Creator? If the creator existed without being created, why then can't you consider the possibility that the universe also existed without being created?
 
Arnono

Arnono

Village Elder
#75
#75
Stormtrooper98 said:
If there is a creator then who created the Creator? If the creator existed without being created, why then can't you consider the possibility that the universe also existed without being created?
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The biggest disconnect we have between our understanding and an Intelligent Creator. We are born to parents, who were born of parents, who were born of parents, etc. Same extends to the majority of what we see around us. But, what's in a thought?
The universe existing without being created will also mean that all the intelligent life also just existed...unless they were created?
There are so many questions that we may probably never get answers to in the Here-Now. The vastness of the universe itself confines us to ourselves. The best way is to work on self improvement. I don't think questioning the 'creator of the Creator' is one of them. What many have beef with is the various interpretations and doctrines made by men to paint this Creator to fellow men.
 
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