Who would you prefer to be advised by twice divorced or never married person:This woman spits FACTS
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I wonder why you 'happily married' folk love to burden incompetent people with your problems. Si you assist one another and leave us to enjoy our incompetence in peace. We are tired of the listening to your endless mourning. Do seminars or start a channel, teach your people about happiness coz misery sure loves company infact the more incompetent the better so that you can get more sympathy bcz your fellow married folk have bigger problems so you turn to incompetent people.
Why is it that the unhappily married prefer unmarried expertise? I have always wanted to know. It has perplexed me for the longest time. Why not start a YT channel and take these your unhappy colleagues off our incompetent hands coz sometimes they can really be a nuisance by the way its men are women both. Even pastors. One told me that his wife has never had sex with him since she last gave birth, after that I just kept off coz I felt it was too much information and too personal. Anyway walk the talk and become a millionaire. If a twice divorced man can do it then you will do better. You will have more subscribers than you know what to deal with. Give it a try.
There are hundreds of books on the subject written by anointed servants of God who've kept their marriages PER BIBLICAL instruction. No one wants that! There are hundreds of sermons by servants of God who are in happy marriages, but who will listen to them?
The problem is that the ONLY way to keep a marriage is PER BIBLICAL instruction.
No one needs to start a YT channel... The info is already public and in every free BIBLE.
That's the whole problem.
Kevin Samuels doesn't offer biblical solutions, so people flock to him.
Your default settings is that men are inherently evil, UNBIBLICAL... So they flock to you.
The truth isn't attractive. There is a structure for marriage... A STRUCTURE ordained by GOD himself.
People don't want that... Those that listen, have happy marriages.
MAN is the head of the family, head of the woman. That's the BIBLE for ya.
Women who can't submit, can't sustain marriages.
Men are to love their wives. That's the PORTION of the Christian woman. To be loved by the husband!
Men who can't love can't sustain marriages.
The BIBLE set the rules long ago... People have always loved themselves false prophets and itching ears will always find what they want to hear
Love is unconditional. Men who can't stand the thought of putting another before their very self look for teachers who tell them that the problem is women.
Women likewise find teachers who tell the men are the problem.
It's not proper that MAN should be alone... MGTOW says nah, God don't know nothing
Women submit to your husbands, feminists say nah... We are equals (Marriage is as much a hierarchy as the Church is a hierarchy)
Since the bible is such a bitter pill to swallow, Kevin Samuels and yourself will ALWAYS have a following.
Meanwhile, the answers remain true... Those that have tested out the BIBLICAL wisdom attest to it!
The problem is that the ONLY way to keep a marriage is PER BIBLICAL instruction.
No one needs to start a YT channel... The info is already public and in every free BIBLE.
That's the whole problem.
Kevin Samuels doesn't offer biblical solutions, so people flock to him.
Your default settings is that men are inherently evil, UNBIBLICAL... So they flock to you.
The truth isn't attractive. There is a structure for marriage... A STRUCTURE ordained by GOD himself.
People don't want that... Those that listen, have happy marriages.
MAN is the head of the family, head of the woman. That's the BIBLE for ya.
Women who can't submit, can't sustain marriages.
Men are to love their wives. That's the PORTION of the Christian woman. To be loved by the husband!
Men who can't love can't sustain marriages.
The BIBLE set the rules long ago... People have always loved themselves false prophets and itching ears will always find what they want to hear
Love is unconditional. Men who can't stand the thought of putting another before their very self look for teachers who tell them that the problem is women.
Women likewise find teachers who tell the men are the problem.
It's not proper that MAN should be alone... MGTOW says nah, God don't know nothing
Women submit to your husbands, feminists say nah... We are equals (Marriage is as much a hierarchy as the Church is a hierarchy)
Since the bible is such a bitter pill to swallow, Kevin Samuels and yourself will ALWAYS have a following.
Meanwhile, the answers remain true... Those that have tested out the BIBLICAL wisdom attest to it!
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I don't have a following. I don't have a blog or YT channel. How do complete strangers know whether I am married or not? I think that they just lack anyone to trust and share their problems with. As I have told you they don't feel that they can trust their fellow members bcz its like a competition to prove who is doing better than the other.
My default settings isn't men are evil bcz I grew up with a very loving and caring and responsible dad, majority of my extended family are the same way, it is when I grew up and was no longer sheltered that I realized that men can be irresponsible and just plain evil. I heard of husbands coming home at 6am from bars. My dad had never come home past 6pm. So don't project your hatred for singles on me please. I can bet my kidney that my dad is a better man than you will ever be. With all your Bible thumping. Do you think that you know the Bible better than me?
My parents ensured that I went to Christian schools from kindergarten to uni, so there's nothing you can tell me about the Bible. My grandmothers were both church leaders elected. I myself I'm an elected church group leader in several capacities including at my work place Christian Union where I am the elected Treasurer. I have had moslems tell me that if all Christians were like me the world would be a better place. Moslems have complemented me on how I dress and carry myself as opposed to some married ladies who dress in decently yet they expect their house helps to dress decently.
Of course society is hierarchical. My problem with married folk is the hypocrisy and selfishness is too much. Men always talk of submission but never about providing or loving their wives as Christ loved the church they want power without responsibility. Look at how Jesus was leading His disciples, how many Christian men do that?
You can call me false prophet all day but remember I don't call people to tell me their issues, they see something in me and it is they who come to me. In fact I wish they would not especially on issues like sex. I have my own challenges but I take them to the Lord in prayer. I don't offload them on innocent bystanders the way you people do at any chance you get.
Please spare us. We are not single to carry your married cross for you. Kila mtu abebe mzigo wake. Married folk are too entitled and too selfish they want to make singles an emotional dumping site. Shauri yenu.
Keep singing about submitting when men are taking their kids fees and gambling it away. Levels of submission is based on the level of Christ likeness of the man, as Paul said, follow me as I follow Christ, not follow me to a ditch. Why do you avoid talking about providing as a man yet the Bible says a man who does not provide is worse than an infidel? Ama you only see what favors you? Which woman won't submit to a man who is a provider? It's automatic. They submit to the boss at work dont they? But if you want to be a child don't expect respect from anyone even the Bible says that the poor man is despised by his own family. Do you read those verses or you only know the one of submission?
My default settings isn't men are evil bcz I grew up with a very loving and caring and responsible dad, majority of my extended family are the same way, it is when I grew up and was no longer sheltered that I realized that men can be irresponsible and just plain evil. I heard of husbands coming home at 6am from bars. My dad had never come home past 6pm. So don't project your hatred for singles on me please. I can bet my kidney that my dad is a better man than you will ever be. With all your Bible thumping. Do you think that you know the Bible better than me?
My parents ensured that I went to Christian schools from kindergarten to uni, so there's nothing you can tell me about the Bible. My grandmothers were both church leaders elected. I myself I'm an elected church group leader in several capacities including at my work place Christian Union where I am the elected Treasurer. I have had moslems tell me that if all Christians were like me the world would be a better place. Moslems have complemented me on how I dress and carry myself as opposed to some married ladies who dress in decently yet they expect their house helps to dress decently.
Of course society is hierarchical. My problem with married folk is the hypocrisy and selfishness is too much. Men always talk of submission but never about providing or loving their wives as Christ loved the church they want power without responsibility. Look at how Jesus was leading His disciples, how many Christian men do that?
You can call me false prophet all day but remember I don't call people to tell me their issues, they see something in me and it is they who come to me. In fact I wish they would not especially on issues like sex. I have my own challenges but I take them to the Lord in prayer. I don't offload them on innocent bystanders the way you people do at any chance you get.
Please spare us. We are not single to carry your married cross for you. Kila mtu abebe mzigo wake. Married folk are too entitled and too selfish they want to make singles an emotional dumping site. Shauri yenu.
Keep singing about submitting when men are taking their kids fees and gambling it away. Levels of submission is based on the level of Christ likeness of the man, as Paul said, follow me as I follow Christ, not follow me to a ditch. Why do you avoid talking about providing as a man yet the Bible says a man who does not provide is worse than an infidel? Ama you only see what favors you? Which woman won't submit to a man who is a provider? It's automatic. They submit to the boss at work dont they? But if you want to be a child don't expect respect from anyone even the Bible says that the poor man is despised by his own family. Do you read those verses or you only know the one of submission?
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I made it VERY clear... The man is to love, the wife is to submit.
And I make it adamantly clear once again, the BIBLE is correct and any solutions contrary to what is prescribed is doomed to fail.
And read through my reply... Patience is a virtue and a fruit. Don't skim, read through what I said and tell me what you found wrong.
I said men who can't love can't sustain a marriage
Women who can't submit can't sustain a marriage.
The problem is that you try to apply worldly wisdom to a spiritual institution. Women MUST submit, men MUST love.
Have you read the admonition for slaves to submit to their masters, including the harsh ones?
Does that imply that the harsh master is given authority to oppress the slave? Of course not! It just so happens that God's commands are UNCONDITIONAL.
You don't LOVE your wife because she's submissive, you love because you are commanded.
You don't submit because the man provides, you submit because you are commanded.
Only in that station can you call on heaven's help in a marriage. Or do imagine husbands shall stand before the great I AM and say we did not love our wives because they were not submissive and that will stand?
Or wives say we despised our husbands because they were irresponsible and that shall stand.
Understand scripture! Another's unfaithfulness to the text doesn't exempt you from the commandment.
Slaves honor your masters, even the harsh ones!
Unless you advice couples from this POV, you lead them astray.
And FYI, providence is part and parcel of love. So when I say men love their wives, provision is PART of the love.
And I make it adamantly clear once again, the BIBLE is correct and any solutions contrary to what is prescribed is doomed to fail.
And read through my reply... Patience is a virtue and a fruit. Don't skim, read through what I said and tell me what you found wrong.
I said men who can't love can't sustain a marriage
Women who can't submit can't sustain a marriage.
The problem is that you try to apply worldly wisdom to a spiritual institution. Women MUST submit, men MUST love.
Have you read the admonition for slaves to submit to their masters, including the harsh ones?
Does that imply that the harsh master is given authority to oppress the slave? Of course not! It just so happens that God's commands are UNCONDITIONAL.
You don't LOVE your wife because she's submissive, you love because you are commanded.
You don't submit because the man provides, you submit because you are commanded.
Only in that station can you call on heaven's help in a marriage. Or do imagine husbands shall stand before the great I AM and say we did not love our wives because they were not submissive and that will stand?
Or wives say we despised our husbands because they were irresponsible and that shall stand.
Understand scripture! Another's unfaithfulness to the text doesn't exempt you from the commandment.
Slaves honor your masters, even the harsh ones!
Unless you advice couples from this POV, you lead them astray.
And FYI, providence is part and parcel of love. So when I say men love their wives, provision is PART of the love.
God's commandments are unconditional? So if a husband wants money you as a woman set aside to pay fees for your children you should give him the no money then call for help from heaven?
God gives everyone a brain to use to choose right from wrong. I refer you to women Abigail whose husband was an idiot, did she submit unconditionally?
This unconditional submission is a demonic form of control men want over women for the sake of their ego, it has nothing to do with God. Nothing. It's just quoting scripture to drive their agenda of demonic domination.
Why didn't Joseph submit to Potiphers wife's advances? There's nothing like unconditional love or submission. Everything has terms and conditions. Including God's love otherwise nobody will ever go to hell.
To me you sound like the Pharisees. Your high handed approach is legalistic religious not Christ like. You don't care about what is in the Bible, you are just power hungry.
A woman or even a slave should not submit to anything or anyone who is not Christ like. Especially to engage in ungodly things. You are the one busy misleading people here. If your husband tells you to swing should you submit unconditionally to sin?
My friend, you have lost the plot and this is why people would rather listen to a 2 time divorcee like Kevin Samuels bcz of the delusional nature of people who claim to be Christians ati unconditional submission.
Lemme just ask, how many people including non believers come to you for advice? Why would a married person prefer to seek counsel and comfort from a single person than you? Yet Jesus said, if I be lifted up I will draw all men to Me?
Has a moslem ever admired you or come to you for prayers in time of trouble and disease? You are religious, religion is everywhere, what is scarce is the Spirit of God. You are selling religion, not displaying Christ. I never saw Jesus telling His disciples that they must submit to Him unconditionally, respect is earned not demanded. This is why nobody comes to you, they see religion not Christ.
Ask yourself why married people would vote for a single person to lead them and leave their fellow married people. They see something that they lack. I submit to God and God alone. I can't submit to anyone or anything ungodly. Ati submit unconditionally so if my kids are molested or abused I submit, I risk HIV? By submitting to a promiscuous spouse? You continue misleading people no wonder nobody will listen to you and then you insult them ati they have itching ears. You are the one who lacks the Spirit of God and that is why a moslem won't ask you for prayers when they are ill bcz you are religious like them but have no power.
I will never advocate for unconditional submissions even to the authorities bcz Jesus Said it very well, if you love anybody including your own parents more than Him, you are not worthy of His kingdom. You want women to make you God in their lives in the name of marriage. You want to be an idol? A woman should disobey God to submit to you? Really? If you want orgies or engaging in crime just submit unconditionally? My fren, you carry on with your delusional doctrine. I have nothing to tell you. You want people to sin in the name of unconditional submission?
God gives everyone a brain to use to choose right from wrong. I refer you to women Abigail whose husband was an idiot, did she submit unconditionally?
This unconditional submission is a demonic form of control men want over women for the sake of their ego, it has nothing to do with God. Nothing. It's just quoting scripture to drive their agenda of demonic domination.
Why didn't Joseph submit to Potiphers wife's advances? There's nothing like unconditional love or submission. Everything has terms and conditions. Including God's love otherwise nobody will ever go to hell.
To me you sound like the Pharisees. Your high handed approach is legalistic religious not Christ like. You don't care about what is in the Bible, you are just power hungry.
A woman or even a slave should not submit to anything or anyone who is not Christ like. Especially to engage in ungodly things. You are the one busy misleading people here. If your husband tells you to swing should you submit unconditionally to sin?
My friend, you have lost the plot and this is why people would rather listen to a 2 time divorcee like Kevin Samuels bcz of the delusional nature of people who claim to be Christians ati unconditional submission.
Lemme just ask, how many people including non believers come to you for advice? Why would a married person prefer to seek counsel and comfort from a single person than you? Yet Jesus said, if I be lifted up I will draw all men to Me?
Has a moslem ever admired you or come to you for prayers in time of trouble and disease? You are religious, religion is everywhere, what is scarce is the Spirit of God. You are selling religion, not displaying Christ. I never saw Jesus telling His disciples that they must submit to Him unconditionally, respect is earned not demanded. This is why nobody comes to you, they see religion not Christ.
Ask yourself why married people would vote for a single person to lead them and leave their fellow married people. They see something that they lack. I submit to God and God alone. I can't submit to anyone or anything ungodly. Ati submit unconditionally so if my kids are molested or abused I submit, I risk HIV? By submitting to a promiscuous spouse? You continue misleading people no wonder nobody will listen to you and then you insult them ati they have itching ears. You are the one who lacks the Spirit of God and that is why a moslem won't ask you for prayers when they are ill bcz you are religious like them but have no power.
I will never advocate for unconditional submissions even to the authorities bcz Jesus Said it very well, if you love anybody including your own parents more than Him, you are not worthy of His kingdom. You want women to make you God in their lives in the name of marriage. You want to be an idol? A woman should disobey God to submit to you? Really? If you want orgies or engaging in crime just submit unconditionally? My fren, you carry on with your delusional doctrine. I have nothing to tell you. You want people to sin in the name of unconditional submission?
A theological debate is hardly the place to get emotive.
1. You don't break one commandment in the name of keeping another. Who suggested that a wife should swing because of the husband?
2. Love, by nature, is unconditional.
God's love is unconditional...
Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Again John 3:16
God loves the world in sin and gives HIS son.
Love is unconditional... Read 1 Corinthians 13
To be like God, you love unconditionally!
1. You don't break one commandment in the name of keeping another. Who suggested that a wife should swing because of the husband?
2. Love, by nature, is unconditional.
God's love is unconditional...
Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Again John 3:16
God loves the world in sin and gives HIS son.
Love is unconditional... Read 1 Corinthians 13
To be like God, you love unconditionally!
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Who even said this? You formulated a couple of straw men and wrestled them with such ferocity!
You can see the wickedness in the video. The Prov 31 woman is being attacked for being CHRIST-LIKE!
What we should be saying to couples is that they, individually, MUST pursue the humility and loving heart of CHRIST. Whether you like it or not, that boils down to generating the capacity to love the unlovable, submit to the worst (if anyone should force you to go with them for one mile, go two)... (if anyone slaps your left cheek, turn to them the right)...
These are commands from our LORD! Gender is irrelevant! Institution irrelevant (married or single). That is the nature we MUST all pursue! If a CHRISTIAN woman only submits to her husband if he provides, what makes her different from a pagan woman?
If a man only loves the wife when she acts right, what separates him from a pagan man? To be CHRIST-LIKE is to be LIKE CHRIST!
I will leave you with 5 verses: Mathew 5:43-48
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
And this isn't gender-limited. Even the man MUST learn to submit to the wife:
Ephesians 5:21
21: Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Consider the admonition for submission when it's directed to the married (both man and wife)
Submission is out of reverence to Christ, not because your wife/husband deserves it.
We can't condition to only keep the commands of God if ANOTHER keeps it too.
You can see the wickedness in the video. The Prov 31 woman is being attacked for being CHRIST-LIKE!
What we should be saying to couples is that they, individually, MUST pursue the humility and loving heart of CHRIST. Whether you like it or not, that boils down to generating the capacity to love the unlovable, submit to the worst (if anyone should force you to go with them for one mile, go two)... (if anyone slaps your left cheek, turn to them the right)...
These are commands from our LORD! Gender is irrelevant! Institution irrelevant (married or single). That is the nature we MUST all pursue! If a CHRISTIAN woman only submits to her husband if he provides, what makes her different from a pagan woman?
If a man only loves the wife when she acts right, what separates him from a pagan man? To be CHRIST-LIKE is to be LIKE CHRIST!
I will leave you with 5 verses: Mathew 5:43-48
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
And this isn't gender-limited. Even the man MUST learn to submit to the wife:
Ephesians 5:21
21: Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Consider the admonition for submission when it's directed to the married (both man and wife)
Submission is out of reverence to Christ, not because your wife/husband deserves it.
We can't condition to only keep the commands of God if ANOTHER keeps it too.