A Little Bird Tells Me.....................

[Ubongo]

@FieldMarshal CouchP

Ngoya tu kidooooooooooogo…

Political prophet, mimi ndiye na ngoya part 2 saaana. The whole world is waiting for this ruling for serious scrutiny. Will it be used as a bench mark

[fishmonger]

yap yap yap…tungoje 17/10 tupige kura.

The ruling was made and the country moved on. The detailed judgement will be ready next week and we will read.

[Mzee_mzima]

Why didn’t the MIT, the political prophet foresee the annulment of the election? Wacha kujiconsole na hearsay ya Njoguini

[Amused]

@trix

If it turns out that what your saying here is true then i would agree that Maraga be charged with treason.

Wewe wacha! How is that even possible? Too much speculation and hypothesizing. That’s ODM’s forte.

[Kennedy_Maina]

@FieldMarshal CouchP

A little bird has whispered into my ear that the reason the Maraga Four Crooks are taking so long to write their judgements (Njoki, Mohammed ((an advisory one)) and Ojwang have already done theirs and were ready to release them three days ago, remember the cancelled press conference?) is THAT THEY CANNOT WRITE CONVINCING JUDGEMENTS ON THEIR FOLLY!

Apparently, the fools have realised that they were taken to the cleaners by Nasa; there are no 500,000+ voter differences between the presidential and other votes; all Forms 34A can be accounted for, and where these have inaccuracies these affect all sides, etc etc. And about the watermarks, many of the forms were photocopies of originals that were wrong scanned (watermarks disappear when photocopied), BUT the originals were later sent to the IEBC!

At one session, the differences between the judges were so intense Njoki almost came to blows with Mwilu.

Lenaola the turncoat is on record at one session as saying that he would not take the decision again; that they screwed up.

Worst of all for the judges is that THERE IS NO PRECEDENT IN THE COMMONWEALTH OR BEYOND for the judgement they took. Ojwang has been happing on this at every meeting, BECAUSE LAW IS ABOUT JURISPRUDENCE - earlier judgements. THERE CURRENTLY EXISTS NO JUDGEMENT IN THE WORLD THAT AN ELECTION CAN BE ANULLED ON THE BASIS OF TECHNICALITIES, AND NOT NUMBERS.

So how will the judges write a judgement WITHOUT authorities?

That is the problem - of their own making - that they are facing.

If your ‘little bird’ is right, then Maraga should do the honorable thing and resign. Perhaps in his parting words he should recommend radical changes to the election laws so that judges can have more time to determine a petition and not just 2 weeks.

But I can tell you this for free. No matter how weak a judgement they will write, Nasa is not short of lawyers to twist it and proclaim it to be a total indictment of Chiloba and their other handpicked officials.
Nasa makes the most noise, and unfortunately Kenyan lawyers are not independent enough to call the judgement for what it is.
Even Miguna who I recently thought might be the one to interpret for us the legal jargon expected in the full judgement, has all of a sudden turned into the biggest Nasa cheerleader.

Unless Maraga makes it crystal clear that they made a mistake, and that not a single IEBC official is liable, he is setting up Chiloba for the slaughter.
So, he should proceed with the full knowledge that Chiloba’s ‘blood’ is on his hands.

[Mathaais]

@fishmonger

The detailed judgement will be ready next week and we will read.

The usual suspects watasema baba amewasomea na wataamini whatever other nonsense he comes up with.

[Big_G]

it will be very interesting to see what the judges come up with?

[LowRider]

These hear says and conspiracy theories closely mirror the ones CORD came up with in 2013.

They also questioned the length of time Mutunga needs to come up with a judgment. There were rumors that he is cooking something or he had no substance.

Politics is very interesting. The same arguments are used by both sides when it suits them only that the likes (given in this forum) and support will come from different

people depending on the situation at hand. In 2013, these same arguments were quashed by you and Jubilee supporters to be nothing other than useless propaganda.

What has changed? What happened to pseudo-patriotism that was being preached and the need to respect the institutions that need time to grow? Or these arguments are

only acceptable when they advance our causes?

[marine1]

So what if they are unable to show the illegalities what will happen?what goes? Can they make a dramatic u turn?

[Ubongo]

@Mzee mzima

Why didn’t the MIT, the political prophet foresee the annulment of the election? Wacha kujiconsole na hearsay ya Njoguini

He had somehow unconsciously discussed the Supreme Court judges and slightly vilified Lenaola

[system]

@Amused

Wewe wacha! How is that even possible? Too much speculation and hypothesizing. That’s ODM’s forte.

Subverting the sovereign will of the people of Kenya is tantamount to having comitted the offence of High treason whose only remedy by law is death by hanging.

[system]

@Kennedy Maina

If your ‘little bird’ is right, then Maraga should do the honorable thing and resign. Perhaps in his parting words he should recommend radical changes to the election laws so that judges can have more time to determine a petition and not just 2 weeks.

But I can tell you this for free. No matter how weak a judgement they will write, Nasa is not short of lawyers to twist it and proclaim it to be a total indictment of Chiloba and their other handpicked officials.
Nasa makes the most noise, and unfortunately Kenyan lawyers are not independent enough to call the judgement for what it is.
Even Miguna who I recently thought might be the one to interpret for us the legal jargon expected in the full judgement, has all of a sudden turned into the biggest Nasa cheerleader.

Unless Maraga makes it crystal clear that they made a mistake, and that not a single IEBC official is liable, he is setting up Chiloba for the slaughter.
So, he should proceed with the full knowledge that Chiloba’s ‘blood’ is on his hands.

Actually Maraga and brigade have to point out officials that are liable for prosecution. Otherwise no one can touch Chiloba.

[gikuyu]

On the

@MaryJane

Actually Maraga and brigade have to point out officials that are liable for prosecution. Otherwise no one can touch Chiloba.

on the other hand ODPP can initiate investigation suo moto-on its own motion

[Mjuaji]

You’ll never be president

[Mr_Black]

@Kennedy Maina

If your ‘little bird’ is right, then Maraga should do the honorable thing and resign. Perhaps in his parting words he should recommend radical changes to the election laws so that judges can have more time to determine a petition and not just 2 weeks.

But I can tell you this for free. No matter how weak a judgement they will write, Nasa is not short of lawyers to twist it and proclaim it to be a total indictment of Chiloba and their other handpicked officials.
Nasa makes the most noise, and unfortunately Kenyan lawyers are not independent enough to call the judgement for what it is.
Even Miguna who I recently thought might be the one to interpret for us the legal jargon expected in the full judgement, has all of a sudden turned into the biggest Nasa cheerleader.

Unless Maraga makes it crystal clear that they made a mistake, and that not a single IEBC official is liable, he is setting up Chiloba for the slaughter.
So, he should proceed with the full knowledge that Chiloba’s ‘blood’ is on his hands.

We must extend the timeline for the determination of a presidential petition, it is clear 14 days are not enough to have a process that allows all parties to prepare sufficiently, for the hearings and for judges to go through the other evidence and make a sound decision.

[system]

@gikuyu

On the

on the other hand ODPP can initiate investigation suo moto-on its own motion

On who?

[gashwin]

@marine1

So what if they are unable to show the illegalities what will happen?what goes? Can they make a dramatic u turn?

Too much to hope for, am afraid.

[this_is_hard]

I suspect NASA already know this and is maybe the reason they are busy vilifying Chiloba

[Kennedy_Maina]

@Mr Black

We must extend the timeline for the determination of a presidential petition, it is clear 14 days are not enough to have a process that allows all parties to prepare sufficiently, for the hearings and for judges to go through the other evidence and make a sound decision.

Yeah. This is important, especially with lawyers like Orengo who will always strive to drown judges with tens of thousands of irrelevant documents.

[Kennedy_Maina]

@MaryJane

Actually Maraga and brigade have to point out officials that are liable for prosecution. Otherwise no one can touch Chiloba.

It depends on your definition of ‘touch’.
In Kenya, prosecution is the lightest form of ‘touch’. But having having Raila’s private militia and thousands of Odinga cult members baying for your blood everyday is a whole different story.
That’s why I said Maraga, as the religious man he claims to be, should make a point to exonerate Chiloba in writing, if he believes he did nothing wrong.
It doesn’t even have to be in the judgement. They can make a side note in the form of “We found no particular individual culpable for the irregularities.”
After all, they are the Supreme Court and their decision cannot be challenged in a lower court.