BBI itawanyonya kuwanyonya

[Finest_wine]

@Simiyu22

He is still a civilian, Raila is. No official duty. Its like Uhuru walking with me. I dont see any harm.

Naaaaa he ain’t a civilian. Purlease…

[kwido]

still waiting for @langatkipro to respond to my comments above. @Finest wine can assist him.

[Strategoi]

@langatkipro

Do you think Ugandans Chinese Rwandese and South Africans know kenya deputy president. Your argument does not make any sense at all

Ugandans know him all too well. My fren.

[Finest_wine]

@kwido

still waiting for @langatkipro to respond to my comments above. @Finest wine can assist him.

I can and esp because numbers are up my street. But Langat will come along shortly. Be patient.

[langatkipro]

@kwido

kindly point me to the clause on the Document proposing ammendment of Chapter 7 to bring 180 nominated members. I might be lost coz I haven’t seen this.

The BBI proposes that if the number of elected MPs does not meet the two third gender rule then the national assembly shall nominate MPs as necessary to achieve that two thirds gender rule. The number of mps per parliament is 360. So if all the elected 360 mps end up being male, in order to fulfill the two thirds gender rule the number of women mps to be nominated shall be 180. Thats is wherre the 180 nominated women mps come from
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[Nasty_Nas]

@langatkipro

The BBI proposes that if the number of elected MPs does not meet the two third gender rule then the national assembly shall nominate MPs as necessary to achieve that two thirds gender rule. The number of mps per parliament is 360. So if all the elected 360 mps end up being male, in order to fulfill the two thirds gender rule the number of women mps to be nominated shall be 180. Thats is wherre the 180 nominated women mps come from
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Are they proposing to abolish the Women Rep position in the BBI document?

[kwido]

@langatkipro

The BBI proposes that if the number of elected MPs does not meet the two third gender rule then the national assembly shall nominate MPs as necessary to achieve that two thirds gender rule. The number of mps per parliament is 360. So if all the elected 360 mps end up being male, in order to fulfill the two thirds gender rule the number of women mps to be nominated shall be 180. Thats is wherre the 180 nominated women mps come from
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A third of 360 is 120 not 180. No?

[langatkipro]

@Nasty Nas

Are they proposing to abolish the Women Rep position in the BBI document?

Yes it shall be abolished in the BBI

[TuTu]

@Finest wine

I may not be a historian but I have not come across a sitting President team tagging with an opposition leader. I could have missed it but it certainly is v odd.
Anayhoooooooooooo

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[Finest_wine]

@TuTu

Abraham Lincoln - Wartime Politics, the Union Cause, 1864 Election | Britannica

Gashwin, I best tell you again that I no longer rate your posts. I read you huko kwa empty ego suits ‘talking’ with so much authority about me as if I am your mate, wewe na ule well known plagiarist jizee and the other stupido Scumbag and takataka wengine. Act your age and I might listen.
You posted here that Admin blocked your Gashwin handle and that you were forced to create this one, when there was a huge furore…I just don’t like digging up old threads.

In short sisomi n’goooo. Support the BBI all you like as it aligns with your pocket in terms of tenders awarded by the Uhuru side of Jubilee. Sisi tutajipanga na Mungu.

[Jimjones]

@kwido

A third of 360 is 120 not 180. No?

Math… the ratio should be 2/3 to 1/3 so you need to consider the total number not one side… SO if you o 120, 360… the total will be 480, 120/480 will be 25% or a Quarter which is less than a Third…

[Baby_Panay]

BBI is not for us guys. Ni ya gava and they will ensure it passes. Go vote NO and hope your vote still means shit.

[lomelu]

-The punguza mzigo bill was pro wananchi but the ruling class would hear none of that

[kwido]

@Jimjones

Math… the ratio should be 2/3 to 1/3 so you need to consider the total number not one side… SO if you o 120, 360… the total will be 480, 120/480 will be 25% or a Quarter which is less than a Third…

I agree. But that’s mathematics. The Number of MPs in the constitution is currently 290. Proposed to be increase to 360. So its a third of this number that should be of either gender.

[Ziggy_Stardust]

@langatkipro

Those people who shall vote YES to BBI nawaonea huruma tu. I mean what does normal mwananchi stand to gain from BBI? I can authoritatively submit… Nothing at all.
The biggest beneficiaries of BBI shall be the political class who shall get the presidency prime Minister deputy prime Minister Ministers leaders of opposition and others. The mps will have increased seats from 290 constituencies to 360,Senators from 47 to 94 and approximately 180 nominated mps to address the gender parity issue. Meaning these leaders shall get chance to employ their relatives and friends as personal assistants, secretaries, body guards drivers etc all facilitated by tax payers money meaning more taxes.
Even the so called 35% won’t benefit the common man at all because records available currently show that 80% of devolved money is normally used to pay county employees salaries and other recurrent expenditures and only 20% or less end up for development. With increase 35% allocation basically the same shall obtain. 80% will be for salaries for more county employees and other recurrent expenditure while less than, 20% for development.
And because govt has no other place to obtain 35% devolved funds to finance its budget needs it shall resort to more taxation to meet this, which generally shall lead to increase in the cost of goods and services leading to increase cost of living. The disposable income among the middle class shall then go down leading to lower consumption hence poor performance of the economy.
The truth is BBI is unnecessary and it wont address any issue at all. What Kenyans need is good leadership not continuous and unending changing of constitution.
What we should in fact be doing or talking about now is reducing the number of mps and the number of counties to reasonable and financially sustainable levels. But this is kenya for you. Maybe people need brain transplant to see this.

Hivi ndio nilikuwa naonea huruma wenye walipigia mlevi na mwizi kura (incl you I suspect).

[Brayo44ki]

@Simiyu22

He is still a civilian, Raila is. No official duty. Its like Uhuru walking with me. I dont see any harm.

Former opposition leader, ODM leader, statesman… The man is like mono baller admin, too many labels.