This is one of the best ideas ever floated on this subject. If implemented, it would decongest the city in one fell swoop!! Only problem would be the ferocious self-interest on deciding whose land should be sold to gava and at what cost for this relocation.
Bitch all you like but we are behind Mzito Uhuru Kenyatta
Facts, whats the fascination with gas? The govt there do not have incentives to invest in an efficient high capacity high speed railway.
Should have copied Japanese with their safe near zero high speed trains. Ama atleast be better than China
Uko na indernet mzuri?..Watch iyo ya mwisho’ the future of houston traffic’…watch iyo tokyo expressway inapita katikati ya skycrappers…we are trying to elevate from shittyness-ness
Part of the clause for that express way is that no road should be constructed to compete with it for the life of the ppp, which is 28 years. Do you think if I can use a good jogoo road to join Mombasa rd at cabanas I will bother paying for the expressway? Nope.
But hio bei ya 2b per km is too much. That’s enough to build efficient and dedicated BRT lanes across the city, including Mombasa rd
Tuko nje, Japan which is slightly larger than half of Kenya has more than 1.2 million km of paved road. Sisi bado tunastruggle na less than 200k km of roads, both paved and unpaved.
It will be paid for by the tax payers like other projects or who do you think will be paying for it daily?
It is true Nairobi is overcrowded sinking any more billions into Nairobi is wasting money and Kenya is a big country why do we have to force everyone to live in a tiny area. But the people who run the country probably know that moving resources elsewhere would make their overpriced real estate valueless
This is where we go wrong. We dont have to look like others to be developed. I think if we could have spent that money on electricity and water in other parts of the country people could have automatically left Nairobi and we could have solved the problem
Imagine if they could work where they live instead of working in Nairobi that could have helped them even more than some overpriced road
We can leave government services in Nairobi but we can construct roads schools and other important resources elsewhere. Most areas in Kiambu, Machakos and Kajiado dont have water sewerage or roads
I dont know why people who have never planted a tree are so attached to few trees that are in the median of a road reserve. Vehicles in slow moving jam pollute worse than the loss of trees. If the cars pass quickly they will use less fuel.
Whatever project except tunneling would have meant trees being cut. There are no spaces for interchanges in the notorious 4 roundabouts ,Nyayo to University way, any extra lanes had to be in the air to avoid costly compensation.
What if the government used the money needed to expand Mombasa road to Waiyaki to cater for health and water and other basic necessities of the people of Nairobi? That is exactly what is happening, govt is saving money it would have used to pay for 60b loan of expressway and it can use it elsewhere. Let private sector build it. Isn’t this what people have been wanting?
Also, why force people in Kisumu, Nyeri, Mombasa, Turkana, Wajir pay for a road in Nairobi they dont use? Let the Nairobi people using it pay for the road instead of adding taxes to everyone else.
Rent in center of Nairobi is too high because getting out of the city to cheap places like syokimau is too tiresome with Jam. So the people of kilimani/Ngara can take 20mins to reach Syokimau, they will move there and decongest the inner Nairobi.
Dont forget, BRT is included in the project
The express way is needed… stop listening to nihilists esp KOT,
We need ways of crisscrossing the city and moving out of it at max 30mins… if express ways are built to move people further away from the city… people will live away and rent will become cheaper…
But it cannot be the only solution, we need an efficient light rail system, a more organized Matatu bus stage system - these days , from Moi Avenue to Tom Mboya Street downwards have been turned into matatu bus stops … this is not sustainable…
The people are going to spend more money to commute. The same people who pay 20k for a 2 bedroom and earn less than 50k.
And these projects are just for the egos of the rich and middleclass Kenyans they dont make any sense. The government could have developed another area to reduce the population in Nairobi that is a more longterm solution.
If roads water and sewage were available people could have moved long time. People want to move but they cant because the government does not want to develop any other part of Kenya
Nairobi imejaa imekosa space
Isiolo is a better option since iko katikati ya Kenya, hapo kibaki aliwasha fikiria. Watu shanunua mashamba Isiolo:D
Isiolo haina maji, pengine we divert maji kama Ile model ya northern collector tunnel.
Kula mawe has been proposed for isiolo resort city for various reasons which is about 70km from isiolo on your way to mandera.
Kuna Ile kisirani ya Northern Frontier District secession maneno kama pwani sio Kenya ama Kisumu sio kenya
Cities with no water bodies zitaisha in the next 100 years
I think you have not done any calculations to support your notion, a big assumption you are making is it costs the same amount in transport to stay in a 2 to 4 hour jam, as it is to drive 30mins to get home, of course it doesnt. Simple maths will show:
for a typical saloon consuming 5km/litre in jam divided by 27km express way length comes to 5.4ltrs. 5.4 x 104 price = 561ksh. Time taken 3hrs
If there is no jam it will consume 14km/ltr. 27/14=1.9 ltrs, 1.9x104 = 200ksh. Time taken 30mins
561-200 is a 361ksh saving in fuel cost. This user will pay 300 at the toll, 61 bob save and 2hrs 30mins of life handed back to them. On top of it, instead of paying 90k rent in Kile, they can pay 40k in Syokimau/mlolongo. Alot of money saved by the end of the month and the kids get to see their parents.
Who wouldn’t pay the toll with that time saved and if they didnt pay they will still use the same amount of money in fuel and loose 3hrs in sitting? I foresee there being too many willing payers in the expressway.
Toll roads are a norm in the developed world. It reduces taxes the citizens pay and gives govt spare money to do other things.
Actually you do and it’s done everywhere.
Planners shape the landscape of the city. Not old trees that grew with no order.
What will happen to countries with no water bodies
Anything they do we must do
The citizens pay taxes the citizens still pay to use those roads so there is no difference
Imagine if the people in Mlolongo worked in Mlolongo or nearby towns instead of crossing to another county would that be better than staying on the road for a whole 30 minutes?