Evolution might never have happened

[fayahmoto]

What i came to accept is that nobody knows where we as a species came from, all we have are theories. But what is a fact is that whether you believe in creation theory or evolution theory or you are agnostic, evolution happened and is still happening as we speak. Most of it is not visible, I’d say that all the developments and breakthroughs in science, tech and medicine are due to (mental) evolution. Also as someone above suggested, antibiotic resistance by some pathogens today are all evolution, the progeny of such pathogens will be genetically different from their “forefathers”. Just the same way mzungus who live in very sunny areas tend to become darker(tanned) than those living in the colder places

[Brayo44ki]

@Mediocre

And learn some statistics while you’re at it, itakusaidia ku avoid hyperbole generalizations like in this article. People aren’t necessarily smarter than before, the population has increased leading to more competitive behaviour and also more exposure to news about things we consider smart, other scientists actually argue that we are growing dumber, other than that the average modern man isn’t physiologically distinguishable from a cro-magnon man who lived 12000 years ago.

Aaah you beat me to it, we are growing dumber in the sense more and more people are slowly encasing themselves in consumer hair brained behaviors.

[Brayo44ki]

@747Captain

Survival for the fittest has made humans smarter, you tend to support my opinion actually. This competitive behavior is what is leading this massive improvement in the mental capabilities of humans. As resources become meagre, so do we try to look for alternatives. Thats why as all natral resources get dimished, man will have to find ways of existing. Thats the smartness we are talking about.

To point out the obvious, one isn’t smart by closing the door to his abode then setting it on fire. Natural systems bring about the balance which we are unwisely eroding to dire consequences.
If that doesn’t describe stupidity aptly then I don’t know what does.

[747Captain]

@fayahmoto

What i came to accept is that [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]nobody knows where we as a species came from, all we have are theories. But what is a fact is that whether you believe in creation theory or evolution theory or you are agnostic, evolution happened and is still happening as we speak. Most of it is not visible, I’d say that all the developments and breakthroughs in science, tech and medicine are due to (mental) evolution. Also as someone above suggested, antibiotic resistance by some pathogens today are all evolution, the progeny of such pathogens will be genetically different from their “forefathers”. Just the same way mzungus who live in very sunny areas tend to become darker(tanned) than those living in the colder places

Short and clear

[747Captain]

@kijanamrefu

@747Captain The current theory that makes the most sense in relation to humans is that different species of humans came along in the timeline. Some survived and some dud not.

Some inter’bred’ with those that could survive in order to survive as well(Neanderthal + African = Mzungu)

The most complete current homo sapien sapien is a branch of Sudanese people and a branch of the Khoi/San.

this has always made sense to me

[Brayo44ki]

@747Captain

this has always made sense to me

Wait until you come across the concept of God and Satan being extra terrestrial and Eden the lab

[747Captain]

@Brayo44ki

Wait until you come across the concept of God and Satan being extra terrestrial and Eden the lab

hahahaha…navuta ngwai daily, but this can never suffice to me

[Brayo44ki]

@747Captain

hahahaha…navuta ngwai daily, but this can never suffice to me

Dementia ya kusubiri

[jofree]

@majizee

When a mosquito develops resistance to an insecticide for example, that is evolution. When the drugs you used to take for malaria cannot kill the plasmodium parasite, it means the critters have evolved and developed resistance. Evolution is not necessarily something visible with naked eyes like getting an extra hand. But always question everything.

Bro development of resistance to pathogens is never evolution BUT BAD human behavior/habit in either prescription or incomplete dosages…leading to development of such resistance genes from those microorganisms.

[fayahmoto]

@jofree

Bro development of resistance to pathogens is never evolution BUT BAD human behavior/habit in either prescription or incomplete dosages…leading to development of such resistance genes from those microorganisms.

While what you say is true, if you study microbiology you’ll realise that there are some changes that happen to the pathogens to make them resistant

[fayahmoto]

@Brayo44ki

Wait until you come across the concept of God and Satan being extra terrestrial and Eden the lab

I’ve heard of a similar concept from the author of The chariots of the gods

[jofree]

@fayahmoto

While what you say is true, if you study microbiology you’ll realise that there are some changes that happen to the pathogens to make them resistant

Agreed but these are Genomic changes meant to evade strategies/regimen meant to destroy them…am yet to see/read about such mutations that just occur without any precursor

[Sambamba]

@Mediocre

Smart isn’t a word I would use, we are just better adapted to live in this world than we are in the past. And survival for the fittest is a very misleading term which implies that physical fitness determines our survival when in reality it’s natural selection that does, there are many fit animals that have been eliminated by nature through disasters such as climate change. You need to brush up on your knowledge of the ‘theory’.

We are not smart. We are just exposed to more information unlike previous generations.
You judge the smartness of a society by the celibre of the leaders it elects and the progress it is making.
The average Nairobian has an Internet connection and fits the criteria of what he is calling smart.The reality on the ground is different though.
I would say Scandinavians or Hong Kongers or Singaporeans or Koreans are smart.

[747Captain]

@Sambamba

We are not smart. We are just exposed to more information unlike previous generations.
You judge the smartness of a society by the celibre of the leaders it elects and the progress it is making.
The average Nairobian has an Internet connection and fits the criteria of what he is calling smart.The reality on the ground is different though.
I would say Scandinavians or Hong Kongers or Singaporeans or Koreans are smart.

But at this point we look at humanity as a whole, as one large group of speciies with so many x-stics.

[1776]

Kweli nyinyi wote ni mafala. But I’m just putting this here in case this thread continues because folly is never short of partakers.

As you were. niko sidelines kama spectator.

[Mindhunter]

You are correct, I also came to the same conclusion but in a different way, a man born 200,000 years ago, and one born today are the same, there is no difference. Evolution is nonsense, flawed logic, right observations but wrong conclusion. Darwin clearly overstretched his conclusion

[Rene_Descartes]

natural selection is indisputable. On the other hand, origin of species as explained by modern/popular science has too many unknowns to be solid truth. however, some claims that the world is just 4000 or 10000 years old have been debunked by archeology. The world has all the signs of having been here for a very looooong time. trick is, question everything.

[Rene_Descartes]

@jofree

Bro development of resistance to pathogens is never evolution BUT BAD human behavior/habit in either prescription or incomplete dosages…leading to development of such resistance genes from those microorganisms.

Its evolution/natural selection in the environment they are in(spiked with medicinal chemicals). its not that individual bacterial cells imbibe the medicine and somehow zoea. what happens is that a single or a few bacteria among billions happens to be genetically unique, often due to random mutation, and does not respond to medicinal chemicals in the routine way. when you underdose you give such individuals the time and space to reproduce. this cell happens to survive when others are killed by the low dosage. it multiplies into millions of cells of which some are randomly more resistant to medicine than the parent. you underdose again.
with this repeated sorting, the bacteria multiplies and selects over a number of generations, each generation growing stronger. in a short time your body is filled by unresponsive pathogens or pathogens that require so strong a dose that it might as well as kill or maim you. If you had killed all of them by a strong dose earlier, you wouldnt have them getting stronger over time.

[Strategoi]

@747Captain

Over the past few weeks, I have been perturbed by archeology and ancient life. I have taken a lot of time to read about ancient life, archeology and how past humans lived, and one thing caught my attention. You do realize that I am a strong supporter of the evolution theory as opposed to the creation theory. In the quest to get more knowledge, I came across startling information.

The theory of Evolution has recently been proven that it might be wrong. Towards the end of his famous book, Charles Darwin clearly states that his studies on evolution are a mere theory and that he had never come across sufficient physical evidence to prove the same. So many scientists over the years share this sentiment. This is the explanation. Read keenly to understand.

Scientists believe that dinosaurs existed about 60 million years ago. Their tests using radiocarbon dating tends to lead scientists into having this unanimous agreement on the time period. Now excavation of dinosaur fossils is being done on a daily basis. More and more dinosaur fossils are being discovered daily. In archeology, the manner in which sediments build up over thousands of years can be studied by looking at a cross-section of the soil profile where the fossil was located.

Now, scientists in different dinosaur excavation sites have discovered one startling discovery. Buried alongside dinosaurs are plants and animal remains which are thought to have also existed during that time. The ecosystem then had plants and animals just living together like today and when the dinosaurs died and got buried, this is exactly what happened to the species of plants and animals that were within the environment of the dinosaurs. This has led scientists into discovering fossils of animals/insects/plants that are thought to be about the same age as the dinosaurs based on how they were buried. Some of the animals whose remains were found alongside the remains of dinosaurs and could be closely studied include bats, frogs, mosquitoes, bats, fern plants. What was discovered left scientists startled.

The fossilized remains of the mammals and plants that were buried together with the dinosaurs were keenly and extensively studied. The shocker was this, that over the alleged 60 million years since the dinosaurs died, all the fossilized remains of the mammals exactly look like the same species today. That is to say, the bat that was buried with the dinosaur looks almost exactly the same as today’s bat. The remains of the frogs and insects showed a very close similarity to the same animals today. Over 30 species were studied and the results indicated that over the alleged 60 million years, these animals have not changed at all in their appearance. The crocodile fossil discovered matches the structure of today’s crocodile.

The only logical conclusion was that, there is no way that its only man species that has evolved over time to become today’s human. Most of the other discovered species have remained the same.

Actually many scientists and archeologists have found so many gaps in the evolution theory.

Am not religous.

Even after Darwin acknowledged his theory as fundamentally hypothetical it gained traction in academia and civil society. Why? Reason is that the theory of evolution was a ruse employed by the liberal bourgeois ideologues to justify white male heterosexist supremacism in the age of capital, empire, and colonialism.