I have one who is supposed to be kyuk bt looks every bit the maasai from height to the big ear lobes
Ingia:
There are no pure tribes anywhere. Tribes on the eastern side of rift valley have raided and stolen women and children from each other mixing up. this can also be said by people from the other side. This has been done up to very recently. It is evident that many tribes have at one time or another lived near one of the two Niles.
The kikuyu are not homogenous and and those near the maasai are actually kikuyu just by language and are actually a mixture. While others are vague because they are more embu. Kikuyu people most probably came from further north from around nyambene in the north edge of miiru(meru) or beyond before their recent history about central. Kikuyu history is actually very elaborate and it shows that they havent been around mount kenya for a very long time. The kikuyu also have a history about some cruel king which is probably a reference to some other master community.
I remember my grandfather was a bantu and the most demeaning insult he could find was to call you a ndorobo. Precolonial kenyan bantus knew the ndorobo though modern bantus only hear of them. The ndorobo seem to have occupied large areas around mt kenya before incoming people displaced and mixed with them.
If you go to the kalenjin you find kipsigis some of whom are brown like maasai and kikuyu. Some kipsigis are actually like maasai with all the known features of maasai like teeth and such. on the other hand, many Nandi are pitch black and probably more related to luo than kipsigis. other groups of kalenjin are short and ogiek are a part of them. Kalenjin are not actually a tribe though they sometimes view themselves as a tribe. The kalenjin god is actually an ancient Egyptian god making matters more complicated and i think they have a precolonial narratives that indicate that they came from near Egypt.
some meru tribes are more related to kamba and their language and complexion is kamba like. many people in some meru subtribes such as tigania and igembe are actually the nearby nilotes(pokot, turkana etc) in disguise and they actually look the part. Some people in imenti are undeniably arab or semitic with the curly hair, hooked nose, bushy eyebrows, and everything else. These people have conflicting history accounts with some versions saying they came from north others saying they came from coast and some studies linking them to another group in Tanzania. Meru oral tradition talks about Misri and brown/red people who are thought to be Ethiopians or the meru were slaves to Egyptians or slaves to inhabitants of Meroe kingdom whose name is similar to theirs by pronunciation.
Asande sana, elimisha sisi zaidi. This actually makes sense. Someone needs to chronicle these things.
@Chiefkiumbe , I told you these villagers are knowledgable. Ni memes na dfhkm ndio wanapenda kuongelea
My two cents - as an elder of the tribe.
Before the famines, smallpox and rinderpest epidemics of 1850-1920, the Maasai were the dominant tribe in East Africa. Just as well, coz they saved our asses from Arab slave traders. BUT THEY ALSO DOMINATED ALL OTHER TRIBES AROUND THEM AND OCCUPIED VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE OF CENTRAL PROVINCE OUTSIDE MURANGA AND PARTS OF NYERI as well as virtually the entire central Rift Valley past Eldoret.
As such, virtually all Kikuyus have Maasai ‘blood’ due to intermarriage and raids for women.
But the Kikuyu, when they settled in central Kenya also found the indigenous people there known as Gumba and Ngoroko. These were rather short, dark people who the Kikuyu say used to live in holes/caves. The kikuyu regarded them to be low humans, and they soon DFHKM into extinction.
With the coming of Caucasian races, the Kikuyus also intermated with them, either through rape or marriage (Gugu the King of the Kikuyu).
In short, the modern Kikuyu person is a mixture of various heritages - like all human beings are. In truth, there is nothing like a pure this or that - thats why blood transfusions are possible.
Race and tribe are just language and culture deep.
Asande sana village elder, I wish all Kenyans could read this
Utafanya kichwa ya @Wakanyama ilipuke in disbelief
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gashwin:
Wokabi is the male variant of Nyokabi which is the name of a girl who came from the Ukapi (Kwavi Maasai who were more inclined towards agriculture or Maathai ma Ngwaci)
The Gumba @emali refers to were a short people also called Ndorobo…they were marginalized through being raided by other communities to the Mau Forest where today they are called Ogiek, a tribe of hunter gatherers…The Kikuyu refer to someone who is poor na hana lake Mugiiki…
Hehehehe, ati maathai ma ngwaci. I’m picturing a maasai in red shuka actually using a jembe
Could it be where Wangari Mathai got her name from?
Hehehe, this one these council of wazee also mentioned but I wasn’t paying attention on this one
Me I heard Nyeri kyuks ndio real Kikuyus as in they were refered as “Kikuyu Proper” hawa wa Muranga na Kiambu ni mixed blood
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BUT NA HIZO STORY ZOTE MUJUE WAMAASAI KAJIADO WAMESEMA MUTAWARUDISHIA SHAMBA ZAO MUMEIBA 2017.
Goks
August 22, 2015, 9:00pm
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:D:D:D…“hutembea ni kama anarukaruka”…huyu ni “Ero” kapsaa.
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byro
August 22, 2015, 9:30pm
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Now it makes sense why my family can’t drop “maathai” from its title
The gumba were allover Central Kenya not just Nyeri. One of my parents is from Muranga and some of our family members from wako na hizo khoisan features alafu from both sides of my extended family tuko mabrown skin now this has made people confuse me for being Asian and whenever I meet South Africans they think am South African.
My late grandfather told me that the Kikuyu first settled around Mt. Kenya when they came to Kenya, the inhabitants they bumped into were pygmies that clicked when they spoke, I concluded those must have been Khoisan bushmen, when the Kikuyu moved towards Nyeri they met the Maasai… . My grandpa also told me that his great grandfather told him that Prophet Abraham and other prophets used to come down to Mt. Kenya to pray,could be why the Kikuyu prayed facing Mt.Kenya
WuTang
August 23, 2015, 8:09am
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mayekeke:
My late grandfather told me that the Kikuyu first settled around Mt. Kenya when they came to Kenya, the inhabitants they bumped into were pygmies that clicked when they spoke, I concluded those must have been Khoisan bushmen, when the Kikuyu moved towards Nyeri they met the Maasai… . My grandpa also told me that his great grandfather told him that Prophet Abraham and other prophets used to come down to Mt. Kenya to pray,could be why the Kikuyu prayed facing Mt.Kenya
Hiyo ya prophet Abraham ni hekaya. But it’s okay.
mtadao
August 23, 2015, 8:15am
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Wa Kyuks walienda Laikipia na Nyandarua juzi and just displaced the Masaai’s
mtadao
August 23, 2015, 8:19am
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Ukabi is the old name meaning Maasai’s wokabi is a woman’s name which means belonging to the Maasai e
mtadao
August 23, 2015, 8:24am
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No wonder they are so industrious