Do you want me to show you an early 20th century map where Israel was actually called Palestine? The Balfour declaration around 1918 established on paper Israel as a future home of jews. It was not until 1948 that the state of Israel came to existence. Prior to 1948 there was no country called Israel instead there was a country called Palestine which the terrorist zionists have been stealing chunk by chunk. 1948 war, 1967 war and 1973 war.
Didnt senior US officials declare Saddam Hussein had stockpiles of WMDs tucked away in bunkers? They lied then, what stops them from lying now?
@Purple and @patco we dare America if you have balls to attack Persia. This time tumejipanga we are taking the war to your doorstep. Mkitupa tuna tupa.
Death to America na Saudi Shaitan.
That lands is our we were given by God the Almighty as a promise to Father Abraham. @uwesmake can attestify Palestine wasituletee uchieth.
Purple is a house niggah aka black female John Bolton who should be fired
Basically the author shares my perspective. In short, when America is selling sophisticated weapons to Saudi Arabia so that Saudi Arabia can use them to carry out genocide and massacres of women and children in Yemen you don’t see American media complaining. When Saudi jets bomb a bus carrying small innocent Yemeni kids and killing most of them, you don’t hear Trump talking about it. When weddings are bombed in Yemen by American made bombs you don’t hear CNN complaining. But when Iran sells sophisticated drones to the Houthis all of a sudden it is a problem. When the Houthis want to retaliate out of self defense, all of a sudden i hear hypocritical cries from the west that Iran should not sell drones to Houthis. When Yemeni lives are lost the west keeps quiet, when Saudi oil is bombed, the west starts crying and threatening to go to war with some clueless Ktalkers supporting their hypocritical cries.
Several things you American fan boys like akina purple that you don’t understand
1.America is now a net producer of oil therefore there is no great urgency to protect shipping lanes and oil infrastructure in the middle East.
2.Saudi Arabia and MBS are very unpopular in Washington and the US in general. America going to war to defend bonesaw wahabists will not wash with Americans.
3.Trump and his base hate wars and entanglements. A Trump war would guarantee his loss next year.
4.Iran is not Iraq.Once Iran is hit, it is not the Americans who will decide how to escalate. A war with Iran will not be confined in Iran only. Hezbollah in Lebanon Iraq and the Houthis will rain missiles on Israel Saudi Arabia like hell.
5.All American bases are within reach of Iranian missiles. Americans will not accept thousands of American lives to be lost in the middle East.
6.Saudi Arabia has the third largest military budget in the world. They spend more than Russia and the UK. How comes they can’t defend themselves from sandle wearing Houthis or Iranians under crippling sanctions?
@Purple Iran and North Korea are good for business. Its either Saudi cooperates with US or Iran is unleashed on them. Same with Japan/South Korea. More money to the US, more business to the US. Its all about commerce, nothing else
2 years ago president Trump and Salman bin Abdulaziz signed a series of letters of intent for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to purchase arms from the United States totaling US$ 110 billion immediately, and US$ 350 billion in 10 years.
Without a rogue Iran, there will be no business
Cheki hii map ya Palestine before 1948. All historians know that Israel did not exist before 1948. Infact Israel became Independent in the year 1948. Before that there was a country called Palestine as you can see on this map which i have googled. You can also google “Palestine old map” then click on image. You will see a country called Palestine that existed before 1948.
I have seen those deceptive maps already. First of all the 1946 map which is labeled “Palestinian land” is fallacious because both Jews and Arabs lived there. It was under British rule. No one owned it, there was no political entity called Israel or Palestine.
Before the British empire conquered Jerusalem, it belonged to the Ottoman Empire. After the British left, Gaza went under Egypt’s control while West Bank came under Jordan.
In 1947, the UN partitions a part of this “Palestinian Land”, Negev desert-a very hostile, inarable land. The Arabs refused because they were opposed to the creation of a Jewish state by the UN. That’s the crux of the problem. They don’t want a 2 state resolution, the very idea that Israel exists is anathema.
Tuendelee?
Trump has so far let so many people down who thought he has no independent mind and he isn’t intelligent…So far the man is antiwar but test of time will tell
And who named the cities therein Bethlehem and Nazareth and Jerusalem etc ? Who??!
Ama unataka kusema those were Palestinian names?
My friend even the Koran itself acknowledges that Israel is the Holy Land of the Jews, the children of Abraham!!
Uliza @mayekeke for confirmation.
The Koran itself on numerous occassions reminds the followers of Prophet Muhammad that Israel is the Land of the Jews and it recognizes, Abraham, David, Solomon, Jesus as key figures.
And there are Muslim clerics who preached peacefully in support of the existence of the Jewish state but over the years their safety was not guaranteed.
So sio ati hizi ni vitu hazijulikani wala hazitambuliki.
The risks are dire. He still can’t go to war alone since Europeans wont support such a war. Thirdly, a global recession is about. U know what this means. But generally you perspective regarding this issue is narrow. So so much at play.
Not true at all. You are saying there was no political entity called Israel or Palestine? Between 1920 to 1923 this area was called Mandatory Palestine and not Mandatory Israel. This region was under the mandate of the British after the Ottoman empire was defeated in world war one. Again remember this name “Mandatory Palestine”. Cheki wikipedia
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This article is about the geopolitical entity. For the document granting Britain a mandate over both Palestine and the Emirate of Transjordan, see Mandate for Palestine.
Mandatory Palestine[a][1] (Arabic: فلسطين Filasṭīn; Hebrew: פָּלֶשְׂתִּינָה (א"י) Pālēśtīnā (EY), where “EY” indicates “Eretz Yisrael”, Land of Israel) was a geopolitical entity established between 1920 and 1923 in the region of Palestine under the terms of the “Mandate for Palestine”.
Mandatory Palestine
1920–1948
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Mandatory Palestine in 1946
Status Mandate of the United KingdomCapital JerusalemCommon languages English, Arabic, HebrewReligion
Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Baha’i Faith, Druze faithHigh Commissioner
• 1920–1925 (first)
Sir Herbert L. Samuel
• 1945–1948 (last)
Sir Alan G. CunninghamHistorical era Interwar period, World War II
• Mandate assigned
25 April 1920
• Britain officially assumes control
29 September 1923
• Creation of the state of Israel declared
14 May 1948Currency Egyptian pound
(until 1927)
Palestine pound
(from 1927)
Preceded bySucceeded by
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Israelhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Flag_of_Israel.svg/20px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png
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All-Palestine Protectoratehttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Flag_of_Hejaz_1917.svg/20px-Flag_of_Hejaz_1917.svg.png
Today part of https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Flag_of_Israel.svg/21px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png Israel
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Flag_of_Palestine.svg/23px-Flag_of_Palestine.svg.png Palestine
During the First World War (1914–18), an Arab uprising and the British Empire’s Egyptian Expeditionary Force under General Edmund Allenby drove the Turks out of the Levantduring the Sinai and Palestine Campaign.[2]The United Kingdom had agreed in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence that it would honour Arab independence if they revolted against the Ottomans, but the two sides had different interpretations of this agreement, and in the end, the UK and France divided up the area under the Sykes–Picot Agreement—an act of betrayal in the eyes of the Arabs. Further complicating the issue was the Balfour Declaration of 1917, promising British support for a Jewish “national home” in Palestine. At the war’s end the British and French set up a joint “Occupied Enemy Territory Administration” in what had been Ottoman Syria. The British achieved legitimacy for their continued control by obtaining a mandate from the League of Nations in June 1922. The formal objective of the League of Nations mandate system was to administer parts of the defunct Ottoman Empire, which had been in control of the Middle East since the 16th century, “until such time as they are able to stand alone.”[3]
During the British Mandate period the area experienced the ascent of two major nationalist movements, one among the Jews and the other among the Palestinian Arabs. The competing national interests of the two populations against each other and against the governing British authorities matured into the Arab Revolt of 1936–1939 and the Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine, before culminating in the 1947–1949 Palestine war. This led to the establishment of the 1949 cease-fire agreement, with partition of the former Mandatory Palestine between the newborn state of Israel with a Jewish majority, the Arab West Bank annexed by the Jordanian Kingdom and the Arab All-Palestine Protectorate in the Gaza Strip under Egypt
Hakuna mtu Kenyatalk hana AlJazeera kwa TV yake. I think Al Jazeera is available in every nation on earth nowadays just like CNN.
And on Al Jazeera every single morning wanaleta hizo map unawekelea hapo tuone. :D:D
Kila siku!! Every morning on Al Jazeera we are reminded of the “great injustice”…
Hata Saudi Arabia na Egypt wamechoka na hii story and nowadays they support Netanyahu. Juu story yenyewe haiishi, miaka na mikaka…
Since 1948 it’s the same old story…
And yet Palestine are hardliners, ni financial aid wanadai every single year.
Israel existed during bible times. But then the Romans burned down Jerusalem afew years after Jesus’ death. Even historians have confirmed that the Romans burned down Jerusalem and destroyed their holy temple. The jews spread all over the world from western Europe to Eastern Europe to Asia. Some few jews remained in their homeland but at this time this place was taken over by muslims who built their Mosques and started living there. It is only after Hitler butchered 6 million Jews that Britain helped ship some jews back to Palestine. However the arriving jews from Europe could not get along with the Arabs who were living there and so war started, the British left, the jews won the war against Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Palestinians in 1948. This led to mass migration of Palestinians from Palestine to other Arab countries. However Israel could not capture Jerusalem until 1967 war. They also captured Golan heights from Syria in 1973 war.
Israeli scientists feed all the Arabs, I was watching the documentary a few days ago.
Almost all the seeds, all the green house ideas in Saudi, Egypt , Jordan etc… all that science comes from Israel.
Israel is coming up with new ways to desalinate sea water, the Arabs can’t wait to buy the technology. Nyinyi baki hapo mkiimba Palestine. Most Arabs moved on.
Ni Iran govt. pekee imebaki hapo na kasheshe mingi. Not the Iranian people per se but their crazy govt.
I see the New York Times have started beating the drums of war as they did pre-Iraq war. We now know weapons of mass destruction never existed! Thousands of young Americans died and the lives of hundreds of thousands Iraqis were upended over lies peddled by racists, Islamophobes, and enablers of the military industrial complex like NYT. Echoes of the moronic and selfish decision made by Bush are still being felt decades later with the rise of ISIS and the unceasing waves of violence in Iraq.
Trump is too ‘smart’ to fall into that rabbit hole. NYT’s propaganda only appeals to people who lack basic critical thinking skills like @Purple and @patco
Mimi i don’t bring Al Jazeera videos on Ktalk. I bring wikipedia articles because they are moderated and fact-checked. What i have posted there is wikipedia not Al jazeera. Check again.
Mjamaa, isnt it evident that events are transpiring to reach a cataclysmic confrontation between Iran and Israel? This isn’t propaganda, false flag operations or conspiracy.
A few months ago, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei reiterated Iran’s goal to wipe out Israel, “a cancerous tumor that should be cut and will be cut” off the map, and averred that Iran will aid any nation or group that attacks Israel. He explicitly acknowledged that Iran has supported and will support Hezbollah and Hamas attacks.
In light of these grave remarks and Iran’s dedication towards developing their nuclear program, Trump must act decisively. I see only one option, ie we take Iran out, literally bomb them back to the Stone Age. Russia won’t like it but oh well…
A failure to support Israel and Arab allies in their hour of need will cripple America’s position of influence in the world. Every other country including China, Taiwan, North Korea will do a re-assessment of American reliability and come to conclusions that aren’t in her best interest.