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IRON CURTAIN THAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN KENYA SIMILAR TO THAT HAPPENED IN PRUSSIA PRESENT DAY GERMANY.
The big three in Kenya includes-Supreme court,Kalenjins & kikuyu’s and the IEBC.
At postdam confrence in 1945 it includes the big three:The UK,USSR and US-They discussed what to do with Germany after the war. Various plans were suggested; the more extreme ones such as the Americans’ Morgenthau Plan suggested carving Germany up into as many as five independent states, all of them agricultural and demilitarized. Eventually it was agreed there, however, that there should be only one German state with Austria separate from it, and further that Poland would lose its eastern lands to the USSR, but Poland would be compensated by taking Germany’s eastern territories (Silesia, Pomerania, East Prussia). The state of Prussia — which had dominated the old Germany and its king was also the Kaiser until the end of World War I — was dissolved as punishment for its perceived involvement in German militarism, and indeed most of the lands forfeited to Poland were old Prussian territories.
Contrary to what others have written, it was not the case that the division of Germany was planned from the outset. The Potsdam Agreement between the Big Three stipulated a united Germany with democratic elections, and the Morgenthau Plan of a divided and agricultural Germany was never part of the agreement. The later division came about because of the Cold War between the Soviet Union and the United States.
At Potsdam, it was agreed that it should be divided into occupation zones amongst the three (later four, France being the fourth) with a transitional period of occupation until the united Germany was ready to have its own elections and democratic government. Berlin was within the Soviet zone, but was also divided into four sectors. In each case, the Soviet zone was the largest individually. Austria was also divided into four occupation zones, and it was agreed that it would remain politically neutral.
Tensions began to build up as early as Potsdam, with the US President Truman — who greatly distrusted the USSR’s Stalin — announcing the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and making a point of saying so to the Soviets to impress them with American power. After the war ended, Soviet and Western interpretations of the Potsdam Agreement differed, in particular what “elections” meant. The situation in Germany was overshadowed by Soviet interference in Poland’s elections, where they used intimidation and force to prevent the government-in-exile in London from running a campaign and allowing the Communist Lublin government (the so-called Polish Committee of National Liberation) to take over.
Meanwhile the Western powers wanted to institute a currency reform to help Germany back on its feet. The German economy was at that point running as a barter economy, with cigarettes and other goods the main “currency”. Shops were generally empty and shortages widespread. Tax income was nonexistent without a functioning currency. The Soviets were against the idea of reform and blocked a joint solution. The Western powers then went ahead and introduced the new Deutsche Mark anyway, and virtually overnight the economy in the western sectors improved, shops began stocking food again, and the Soviets were embarrassed and enraged.
Their response was to try and cut off the Western sectors of Berlin from their occupation zones in the west (what became West Germany) and force the Western Allies to either give up their control of western Berlin or to go along with Soviet plans for Germany. They also refused to recognize the election of the Social Democrat Ernst Reuter as mayor of Greater Berlin and used physical force to prevent him and the other non-Soviet parties from entering city hall, which was located within the Soviet zone.
The Western Allies responded with the Berlin Airlift (1948-1949), flying in enough food and supplies to keep West Berlin going. This galvanized support for the Allies in western Berlin and western Germany, while embarrassing the Soviets further. The Soviets eventually gave up and allowed traffic to and from West Berlin, but set up its own government of Berlin in the east.
The US decided to start what was called the Marshall Plan to get European economies back on their feet, and the Soviets saw it as a ploy to get more influence and economic integration in Europe. Thus the Soviets forced the countries they controlled to refuse this aid, including their zone of Germany.
The Western governments also were making plans for a united democratic free-market Germany — still under occupation by the four powers, but united. The Soviets, still angry at the Western powers’ unilateral actions, refused to cooperate further, so the Americans, British, and French agreed to join their sectors together in 1949 into the Bundesrepublik Deutschland (Federal Republic of Germany) with a “provisional” capital in Bonn and provisional constitution, the Grundgesetz. The provisional aspect is important, because the Western powers intended all along for Germany to be united and to have the Soviet sectors be integrated into that system, so the Bundesrepublik claimed to be the government of all Germany.
The Soviets in response formed a new state in their own zone, the Deutsche Demokratische Republik, also in 1949. This state, like its western counterpart, in effect claimed to be the government of all Germany. The Soviets manoeuvred the Social Democrats in their zone into a forced merger with their own Communist Party over the protests of Social Democratic leaders in the west, and the Social Unity Party (SED in German) was formed out of the merger. While other parties were technically allowed and existed, in reality they were forced to join a “National Front” of parties under the control of the SED, with elections determined in advance.
In 1953, workers in East Berlin became fed up with economic conditions and Soviet domination, and demanded a reduction in production quotas and work hours, then began demanding free elections. The Soviets responded with tanks, crushing the strikes and uprisings and cementing their control over East Germany. This touched off an exodus of workers to the west, which already had a higher standard of living and better conditions.
The physical division of Germany didn’t come until 1961. Until then, literally thousands upon thousands of Germans were leaving East Berlin and East Germany to go to the west, and the East German leadership decided to build the Wall. That wall completely surrounded West Berlin and also went from the Baltic to Czechoslovakia, and was continually improved and strengthened over time, until it became nearly impossible to get across it without being killed or caught.
At first both Germanys refused to recognize the other, and each insisted that other governments only recognize one or the other. Thus West Germany was recognized by Western countries, East Germany by those in the Soviet bloc. Over time the two Germanys agreed to recognize each other, and in particular it is noticeable how the East Germans’ description of themselves changed to reflect their idea that East Germany was in fact a separate country from the rest of Germany. Thus the National Front’s full name changed from “National Front of Democratic Germany” to “National Front of the German Democratic Republic”, and the East German national anthem, which contained words about a united Germany, was no longer sung with those words. Many other such subtle changes took place through the 1970s and 1980s, as East Germany did its best to seem as independent as possible from the rest of the country.
The division of Germany thus happened in many small steps, and it was never actually planned that way by agreement, even if it had been suggested by various people in 1945.
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Summary @jaymoh
Proposing is one thing and having it in place is another. Some dreams can never be valid.
Wacha waeende
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I think people here underestimate power of the people. Kibera only can start a revolution
Which power, of minority or majority?
Even if we Secede, RWNBP will still loose in the next Country if he vies for the Presidency.
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We were told the opposition is to unite Kenyans when elected. So when they lose does the contrary apply?
Doesn’t secession require a referendum? So they want to go to the ballot again? I laugh.
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Revolution huanza na pale ulipo…
No sane mind would vote yes for this referendum
So now this would mean kikuyu republic would need to conscript a large number of their young men to fight somali extremism which will have come closer to their border,.? Ok
Nikisikia hii story ya succession, mimi hukumbuka ile dochumentary ya Biafran war naanza kutetemeka :(
As usual jirani only contribution is Kikuyu that, Kikuyu this.
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Sisi hatujabeba watoto.tafakari ya babu.
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Mi nko ready
Ata uko egypt wengi walisema venye unasema
Na saa hii Egypt yenyewe iko wapi? Under another dictator mwenye hapendi ujinga. Journalists are rotting in jail without trial… Usife bure…
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