The Red Pill

[Sambamba]

@Karoga

This is false thinking my fren ,we aren’t born equal ,so equality for all can’t exist, opportunities can’t be equal for all because we each possess different capabilities .Evolution can’t allow us to be uniform and that’s why we perform things differently both men and women ,feminism misleads women to think that we are equal but we are very different from a biological, evolutionary and mental capacity. What gives me men and women purpose and happiness is very different…

Feminism is all about equality and zero responsibility.

[1776]

@Kosmic Karai

So you buy into this weird conspiracy theory that woman are trying to rule over men? Lol I wish you had any substantial proof to that claim

And there are far more bigoted people than the ones you just listed… like China, Russia and countless others

But let’s go by your logic and pretend it’s right, only countries where woman are marginalised are Muslim countries and India, those two combined are more than 2 billion of the earth’s population, IT’S STILL A BIG NUMBER.

it’s not a conspiracy. anyone who is anyone knows that the feminist victory mark is not equality. it may have started that way but it isn’t.
large number or not,if the feminist movement was genuine, believe me, they would compromise to make things work.
societies in Scandinavia have the highest female representation and equality stats. yet the truth is, there isn’t a single statistic that proves that the differences between men and women in those societies have a better understanding of each other. it is means there is but a tolerance.

[Kosmic_Karai]

@Karoga

This is false thinking my fren ,we aren’t born equal ,so equality for all can’t exist, opportunities can’t be equal for all because we each possess different capabilities .Evolution can’t allow us to be uniform and that’s why we perform things differently both men and women ,feminism misleads women to think that we are equal but we are very different from a biological, evolutionary and mental capacity. What gives me men and women purpose and happiness is very different…

You’re confusing equal outcomes with equal opportunity, YES I believe equal outcome of both genders is impossible and there will always be more female models than men and more male truck trivers than female ones

But equality of opportunity is different. It means that each and everyone of us should have the chance to development and to show their ability. This is something that we should strive for, otherwise a lot of human potential is wasted to poverty, conflict, lack of education And decriminalization on women, You never know where the next hardworking entrepreneur, famous artist or brilliant scientist might come from, and if our society doesn’t invest effort into bringing them to the surface, they will be lost.

[Kosmic_Karai]

@1776

it’s not a conspiracy. anyone who is anyone knows that the feminist victory mark is not equality. it may have started that way but it isn’t.
large number or not,if the feminist movement was genuine, believe me, they would compromise to make things work.
societies in Scandinavia have the highest female representation and equality stats. yet the truth is, there isn’t a single statistic that proves that the differences between men and women in those societies have a better understanding of each other. it is means there is but a tolerance.

Again I kindly ask for proof and how the majority of feminists are trying to secretly develop a matriarchy.

Better understanding of each other? What do you mean by that? As long their not fighting for dominance over the other it’s fine by me. And it’s funny that you mentioned Scandinavia one the most well developed places on the planet

[Azor_Ahai]

@Kosmic Karai

This is all bullshit, The Red Pill is a misogynistic beliefs rooted in archaic bigoted power dynamics. The tenets of TRP seem to be trying to maintain societal gender control out of fear that they will be treated the way men have historically treated women. Not just by women either, but also by “Alpha males”. Red Pill ideologies blatantly hate women and perceive them as enemy rather than partner. Ideologies that pretend they try to detach from “man’s obsession with women,” while constantly obsessing about women. Red Pillers also have an insecure hatred of “alpha males” and attempt to emulate them.

So now we have an unhealthy obsession with projecting in a pseudo-masculine way that tries to adhere to some stereotypical hierarchical category of gender roles. On top of that, TRP does not actually tackle or try to improve men’s issues. The crux of Red Pill is faux-macho trophy hunting. That doesn’t improve longtime men’s issues of: men feeling they should withhold emotion (TRP stance is don’t be emotional; be alpha and macho), or that a man’s self worth is based around his penis (get laid in loveless sex or you’re a loser). Red Pill suggests that men should become more detached from compassion and introvert themselves further into these self-destructive tendancies.

Red Pill concepts often encourage dangerous behaviour – mentally or physically. It’s not just a gender issue (it mostly is) because treating anyone (regardless of age or gender) the way they suggest women or ‘BETA males’ be treated makes someone a selfish, unempathetic asshole.

There’s a lot wrong with TRP if people look beyond the surface level advice of ‘improve yourself’. More confidence, more social perspective, workout, more care for the hair/fashion/body, these are all pretty simple and obvious strategies. They work and there are a lot of ways to achieve them. Mistakenly and unfortunately, if those strategies start working, they might think other tactics (in short, being a selfish, rude, manipulative person) will work too.

Ironically, Red Pill pick up advice which can be shortened to: ‘pretend to be interested and pursue them, but give up if they (females) aren’t interested in you’ is actually pretty good advice. Actually, that’s almost incredible advice. They’re encouraging guys to talk to women, get to know them and try to socialise and work towards a date or hookup. But if they aren’t interested, don’t overstay and harass them like a desperate punda and move on. Unfortunately these ‘strategies’ are under the guise of women being puzzles and prizes to dismantle while abstaining from an actual emotional or romantic connection.

What is wrong with the idea of self-betterment? Nothing. Attempting to look good, feel good and be good is great. Putting effort and getting better at socialising and flowing conversation is important. But Red Pill doesn’t encourage self-improvement of men as much as it encourages the deconstruction and demoralisation of women, and also those who they perceive to be “lesser” men. It aims to purport male dominion within its own gender and also over women. The benefits of the above improvements are secondary side effects to the initial primary, more malicious tactics of being socially/emotionally disengaged from women, and from being deeply seated in self-loathing towards your own male gender.

That doesn’t help either gender on a larger or smaller scale. The Red Pill is so anti-humanitarian (mostly anti-women but also anti-men) that it is actually a great example for why feminism benefits men. Among other things, one big part of what feminism does for society is to try and achieve the opposite of what Red Pill wants to regress to preserve: loosen the shackles on the state of men being emotionally crippled, insecure, gendered infighting people who have been sized down to to sexual success. Feminism benefits men by trying to break down the stereotypical gender roles on both sides so men don’t feel the need to be “alpha” like some poorly-written protagonist in a 1980s action movie.

Sexually insecure people flock to red pill as a last resort and get preyed on by other insecure people and tricked into thinking that if they awkwardly pretend to be a woman-hating, self-absorbed prick then magically their insecurities will disappear – but instead they have a scapegoat (i.e. women) to direct their misguided (self) hate towards, and create these imaginary scapegoats called ‘Betas’ to try and belittle and disregard as failures in order to prop themselves up by doing nothing other than lowering the standards, And I have seen this sort of behavior too much in Ktalk.

Makena :D:D

[Karoga]

@Kosmic Karai

You’re confusing equal outcomes with equal opportunity, YES I believe equal outcome of both genders is impossible and there will always be more female models than men and more male truck trivers than female ones

But equality of opportunity is different. It means that each and everyone of us should have the chance to development and to show their ability. This is something that we should strive for, otherwise a lot of human potential is wasted to poverty, conflict, lack of education And decriminalization on women, You never know where the next hardworking entrepreneur, famous artist or brilliant scientist might come from, and if our society doesn’t invest effort into bringing them to the surface, they will be lost.

Feminist say men enjoy a privileged position in life ,while in practice it’s women who enjoy such opportunities,from lower entry marks in highschool , university to job market,to scholarship,to dedicated financing by banks and insurance ,to dedicated political position yet they are the majority voters , differentiate theory and practice my fren ,but we redpillers know that feminist use plausible deniability when “crying” for equality but not equality of outcomes.

[thesavage]

@Kosmic Karai

Again I kindly ask for proof and how the majority of feminists are trying to secretly develop a matriarchy.

Better understanding of each other? What do you mean by that? As long their not fighting for dominance over the other it’s fine by me. And it’s funny that you mentioned Scandinavia one the most well developed places on the planet

I will just leave this here as an half assed attempt to respond to your attempt to explain to us why feminism is so good up there:

According to feminists, Red Pill is misogynistic.

But in actual sense, Red Pill is simply male awareness of reality. It is a state, not an act. Feminists mistakenly view it as male sex retaliation to feminism.
(To a feminist any man that upon being attacked by a woman retaliates, is a misogynist.)

Red Pillers have an insecure hatred for “alpha males” and attempt to emulate them.

Red Pillers are not one homogeneous group of men, but they are all aware of the existence of alpha males. It appears some of them hate alpha males, and those ones do not attempt to emulate them. Those who admire them emulate them.

Red Pill encourages dangerous behavior, being selfish and unemphatic…

Again Red Pill is awareness of selfishness and lack of empathy surrounding men and taking necessary steps to protect and defend oneself against such.

Pickup advice is good advice

I agree

One big part of what feminism does for society is to try and achieve humanitarian pro-men, pro-women society.

Good. If that be the case, then let us abolish unfair feminist laws in the west.

PS: Feminists declared war on men and now they seem to be preparing themselves for a non-existent counter strike. What will most likely happen to a self-declared feminist is just being ignored/overlooked/neglected by men.