Uhuru:chinese borrowing will not stop

[montecarlo]

@FieldMarshal CouchP

Thanks for asking for my opinion.

Borrowing is not bad per se, BUT RECKLESS borrowing is. My problem with Uhuru is that he is using revenues collected LOCALLY wastefully and then relying on expensive loans to build infrastructure. Off the top of my head, no country the size of Kenya can offer free education, sanitary pads, healthcare etc etc etc. NOT EVEN THE UNITED STATES. To create the impression - through stupid populist policies - that an economy with a per capita income of about $1,300 can offer the same freebies as Nordic economies, with per capita incomes of over $30,000, is not only delusional but crazy - and that unfortunately has been Uhuru’s policy. Throw in corruption and the waste becomes mind-boggling.

To move forward Kenya must address both the software and the hardware. uhuru seems bent on addressing the hardware BUT not the software. If he also addressed the sugar, maize, tea, coffee, macademia, avaocado, milk, fish sectors; the huge wage bill; corruption; cartels in banking, transport etc HE WOULD NOT NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE FREEBIES BECAUSE THE MAJORITY WOULD ALREADY HAVE MONEY IN THEIR MPESA ACCOUNTS.

It doesn’t matter how many roads you build but when the money meant to pay 10,000 maize farmers goes into the pockets of 10 cartel members, there is nothing we are doing. The economy will grow, like it is now at 6.5% BUT for a very few - those 10 cartel members, not the 10,000 farmers.

Asante

A very sober response…inakaa pace maker iko na new batteries

[hinzan]

this country has many problems but the most pressing & obvious to me is our governments Lack of Ideas, yes we need infrastructure, roads, railways e.t.c., but the govt. is ignoring our most powerfull enablers in Agriculture and A Targeted Education system,our education system need to be Revamped, coz as it is a kid spends 12 years in school and still ends up with zero skills, whatever talents they have are swallowed by the multitude of resource wasting subjects, we need our schools to teach skills they can use to earn a living, not just words on paper, with an education system that insists on an individuals talents & abilities,[ i.e. a plumber will never need to learn the periodic table, or binary math,] this will ultimatley absorb the millions of class 8 & forth form leavers who generally still have to learn a skill to earn a living AFTER 8-12 years of learning, its Bloody pointless.

[Ubongo]

@hinzan

this country has many problems but the most pressing & obvious to me is our governments Lack of Ideas, yes we need infrastructure, roads, railways e.t.c., but the govt. is ignoring our most powerfull enablers in Agriculture and A Targeted Education system,our education system need to be Revamped, coz as it is a kid spends 12 years in school and still ends up with zero skills, whatever talents they have are swallowed by the multitude of resource wasting subjects, we need our schools to teach skills they can use to earn a living, not just words on paper, with an education system that insists on an individuals talents & abilities,[ i.e. a plumber will never need to learn the periodic table, or binary math,] this will ultimatley absorb the millions of class 8 & forth form leavers who generally still have to learn a skill to earn a living AFTER 8-12 years of learning, its Bloody pointless.

On the spot

[Dunya]

@FieldMarshal CouchP

What I will NOT engage in is stupidity. I consider this debate closed.

The debate is closed. Population growth is the least of our problems and a fact is you cannot stop people from breeding. People only stop breeding recklessly when they have productive things to do not the other way round so you offer no insight nor solution by your endless rant on population growth. World over the poor will always breed to compensate for the wealthy who are always under breeding. The true challenge has always been linking the wealth and resources that the wealthy possess and under utilize/consume to be accessed by the poor masses who have the mouths to utilize/consume. That problem is called INEQUALITY. Its the greatest challenge not population growth. There is enough wealth/resources for everyone and even more mouths but how its distributed is the problem. Man has not come up with a perfect system to ensure equitable distribution of resources is achieved. Capitalism is crap. Socialism, no better.

[bouss]

@Dunya

The debate is closed. Population growth is the least of our problems and a fact is you cannot stop people from breeding. People only stop breeding recklessly when they have productive things to do not the other way round so you offer no insight nor solution by your endless rant on population growth. World over the poor will always breed to compensate for the wealthy who are always under breeding. The true challenge has always been linking the wealth and resources that the wealthy possess and under utilize/consume to be accessed by the poor masses who have the mouths to utilize/consume. That problem is called INEQUALITY. Its the greatest challenge not population growth. There is enough wealth/resources for everyone and even more mouths but how its distributed is the problem. Man has not come up with a perfect system to ensure equitable distribution of resources is achieved. Capitalism is crap. Socialism, no better.

Huyo mzee ameshindwa kuzaa hence his obsession with the topic.

[kalenjinkirdit]

uhuru is just a sellout

[hinzan]

why is this forum with all it’s supposedly innovative KENYAN thinkers not Joining in defining our what kind of country we want, i believe there is enough brain power in this village to make a significant dent in the problem, seeing as a referendum is gonna happen whether we want it or not…instead of aimless ranting for a change.

[ye_RAE]

@FieldMarshal CouchP

Because, sir, like most niggas this side of the woods you consistently refuse to accept the truth? AND THAT TRUTH IS THAT WE WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH POVERTY UNTIL WE DEAL WITH THE POPULATION EXPLOSION PROBLEM.

It will not matter whether our economy grows at 15% pa or we completely eradicate corruption or the huge wage bill.

As long as Kenyan vaginas are pumping out nearly 2 million babies out each year, it’s never, ever gonna happen (this year, 1.1 million kids sat for KCPE. Add another 400,000 who fell by the way side. Now tell me which economy in the world creates 1.5 million jobs a year - coz these kids will be in the job market in the next four years!!!

I seek to disagree with you concerning this matter. I have been to a world most populated country for three months now and population is one of economic growth incentive. We have failed our country in which our knowledge has been less innovative. The leaders too have been by far a menace with series of corruption and partiality. Money circulation is very important, with kind of resources we have Kenya is able to handle as twice as current population without strain.

[FieldMarshal_CouchP]

@ye RAE

I seek to disagree with you concerning this matter. I have been to a world most populated country for three months now and population is one of economic growth incentive. We have failed our country in which our knowledge has been less innovative. The leaders too have been by far a menace with series of corruption and partiality. Money circulation is very important, with kind of resources we have Kenya is able to handle as twice as current population without strain.

How many times do you want me to say that absolute population is NOT a problem but the RATE of growth of that population is? HOW MANY TIMES?

[system]

The problem with Kenyan youth is that they are obsessed with quick riches, dirty money, na shortcuts. Nobody wants to think, get things done n get tired, thats why we have one of the lowest innovation rates yet we have one of highly educated populations in Africa. Jiulize kwa nini imekua rahisi sana kutomba msichana Nairobi as long as you throw cash or the illusion of it in the picture? Chinese watabaki huku mpaka tupate akili.