The sad state of Baringo county

Mine_rva

Village Elder
#41
Haha i had to transfer in form 3,singesurvive another 2yrs na hio upuss ya chakula
haha. mimi pia nilisomea a high school in Baringo. we didn't have food problems but first term water was a big problem. we used to bathe and wash at a nearby river. there is a time the locals talked to the school that tuwe tunabeba basins za kwenda kuogea coz the river was drying and they were using its water for all domestic needs. mimi kama form four mrui nikakataa kubeba. kuna mzee karibu anikate na panga siku moja
 

S_Lilly

Village Elder
#42
Kimwarer and Arror are in Elgeyo Marakwet County which is not that semi arid. My question is why has government not mooted dam construction in arid areas like baringo west pokot, marsabit, mandera, garissa, wajir and turkana counties.
Although you ask the questions, you also know the answers
The Turkwel Dam located in West Pokot nearly became a white elephant.

The controversial Kimwarer and Arror dams were requested by the leaders located in those areas. The leadership in the semi-arid regions would need to request for the dams, a feasibility study conducted to determine viability.

There was a conversation a while ago regarding an aquifer in the arid regions but that discussion ended, the leaders in the region need to initiate and keep the conversation a live, it cannot be done for them by leaders representing high rainfall zones. The counties can also use some of the funding allocation to setup bow hole irrigation water pans.

The government has intervened in the past by buying cows and also helping repopulating the herds, government from the centre cannot do everything, the county governors need to accept responsibility and start addressing localised problems – they ought to have seen the emerging problem and raise the alarm but they cannot be bothered.

A while a go an NGO spent Ksh 20m shillings to setup 50 water pans in an area for women to irrigate. Small change compared to the amount stolen, which could save people from perishing.
 
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#45
Kimwarer and Arror are in Elgeyo Marakwet County which is not that semi arid. My question is why has government not mooted dam construction in arid areas like baringo west pokot, marsabit, mandera, garissa, wajir and turkana counties.
Ever had of ripple effect the 7dams including masinga help people as far as mutito sio lazima dam ikue hapo ndo mpate effects zake!
 

patco

Village Elder
#46
Kimwarer and Arror are in Elgeyo Marakwet County which is not that semi arid. My question is why has government not mooted dam construction in arid areas like baringo west pokot, marsabit, mandera, garissa, wajir and turkana counties.

Si utumie logic kidogo tu. The dam in Ndakaini doesn't just serve Murang'a county. That water is used by homes in Nairobi county, parts of Kiambu county and who knows where else. Millions of people use that water.

And that is just one dam. So you don't build a dam per county you go by the population and needs it will meet. Pipes are used to take the water to other counties.

Ndakaini is 70 million cubic meter (MCM)... the proposed Arror will be whoopin' 60 MCM... Kimwarer will be 21 MCM...

Surely do I need to explain more?

If the two dams are constructed you'll have a combined 81MCM vs Ndakaini's 70MCM!!

Can that small population in Elgeyo Marakwet and the adjoining Baringo and Pokot even compare to the consumption needs in Nairobi?

And you can always build another and another as needs increase...
 
#47
Si utumie logic kidogo tu. The dam in Ndakaini doesn't just serve Murang'a county. That water is used by homes in Nairobi county, parts of Kiambu county and who knows where else. Millions of people use that water.

And that is just one dam. So you don't build a dam per county you go by the population and needs it will meet. Pipes are used to take the water to other counties.

Ndakaini is 70 million cubic meter (MCM)... the proposed Arror will be whoopin' 60 MCM... Kimwarer will be 21 MCM...

Surely do I need to explain more?

If the two dams are constructed you'll have a combined 81MCM vs Ndakaini's 70MCM!!

Can that small population in Elgeyo Marakwet and the adjoining Baringo and Pokot even compare to the consumption needs in Nairobi?

And you can always build another and another as needs increase...
Our people are being targeted. Reserve your energy for more engaging discourse this one here is a lost one!
 
#48
The question of poor planning & strategy, disorganization, greed and corruption in Africa, will never be answered until we consider improving the culture and moral values of the black people. It's not about lacking in capacity to do, but lack of will. We're blinded by insatiable desire for wealth which we cannot even attach meaning to. Why would someone steal Kes 100 billion meant for poor people's medicine and just keep it in foreign accounts. That money lies there for decades because the person who stole it doesn't even need it. He will die without touching it. This is madness and stupidity of the highest level.
 
#49
The question of poor planning & strategy, disorganization, greed and corruption in Africa, will never be answered until we consider improving the culture and moral values of the black people. It's not about lacking in capacity to do, but lack of will. We're blinded by insatiable desire for wealth which we cannot even attach meaning to. Why would someone steal Kes 100 billion meant for poor people's medicine and just keep it in foreign accounts. That money lies there for decades because the person who stole it doesn't even need it. He will die without touching it. This is madness and stupidity of the highest level.
I wish I could shake your hand Scottsman: that's what monkeys do with the stollen billions... Africa led by Kenyan leaders had not evolved enough to handle billions. Imagine evolution from a cattle rustler to a member of cabinet for instance , what do expect from such an animal but :meffi::meffi::meffi:
 
#51
Haiya kumbe wewe ni mkale kapisa kwanza kutoka Marigat. Na siunajua hata maji yakiwa hapo Maragwet yanawesa saidia hata neimbaring counties?
I do not even come from Marigat.I have never been even to that place. I come from Sotik Sub County in Bomet. My question has just been simple, why are we providing priority to well rain fed areas as opposed to those in dire need of water when it comes to budgetary allocation, but someone somewhere just because of the tribal disease that afflict us would like to turn this issue to be about whether Ruto stole the dam money or not and is responsible for our entire drought problems just because he saw my name Lang'at Kipro
 
#52
@patco si president ali rule for 50 years na akaiba goldenberg anatoka huko yaani hange unda ma dam huko . kweli wakale @Budspencer @Tarantinoh hamuna akili maumbwa nyinyi 50 year rule na bado watu wenyu wanakufa njaa
Mgisu and your entourage najua you haven't away from the railway line circuit, the lower 1/4 of Kenya that's why you are arguing from a point of ignorance. The arror and Kimwarer dams you are mentioning are over 250 kms away from Baringo North, the first 40 kid being a steep wall of the Kerio Valley.
But all in all there has been a failure, we can not be claiming that we are going to achieve industrialization and yet people are dying of hunger.
 

Mr Black

Village Elder
#54
The question of poor planning & strategy, disorganization, greed and corruption in Africa, will never be answered until we consider improving the culture and moral values of the black people. It's not about lacking in capacity to do, but lack of will. We're blinded by insatiable desire for wealth which we cannot even attach meaning to. Why would someone steal Kes 100 billion meant for poor people's medicine and just keep it in foreign accounts. That money lies there for decades because the person who stole it doesn't even need it. He will die without touching it. This is madness and stupidity of the highest level.
The black man had rich culture and incorruptibe moral values woven into the fabric of society over decades perhaps even over the course of a century, what we need to do is go back to our ways albeit with some modifications like doing away with FGM and ritual killings, we were a communal society not this individualistic mess we have now that has led to this insatiable need to amass illgotten wealth of mindboggling proportions, lets go back to treating thieves like the scum of the earth, lets go back to being allergic of egocentrism, we wouldnt be learning to do things in a 'new, modern, civilised' manner like the jungus like to put it, we would be going back to our roots.

The African has got to go back to being a proper african, that will be the first victory in the war against bad governance, corruption and a dysfunctional society.
 

upepo

Village Elder
#55
The black man had rich culture and incorruptibe moral values woven into the fabric of society over decades perhaps even over the course of a century, what we need to do is go back to our ways albeit with some modifications like doing away with FGM and ritual killings, we were a communal society not this individualistic mess we have now that has led to this insatiable need to amass illgotten wealth of mindboggling proportions, lets go back to treating thieves like the scum of the earth, lets go back to being allergic of egocentrism, we wouldnt be learning to do things in a 'new, modern, civilised' manner like the jungus like to put it, we would be going back to our roots.

The African has got to go back to being a proper african, that will be the first victory in the war against bad governance, corruption and a dysfunctional society.
The thugs who take off with billions wouldn't muster enough courage to steal one goat from their home villages.
 

S_Lilly

Village Elder
#58
The question of poor planning & strategy, disorganization, greed and corruption in Africa, will never be answered until we consider improving the culture and moral values of the black people. It's not about lacking in capacity to do, but lack of will. We're blinded by insatiable desire for wealth which we cannot even attach meaning to. Why would someone steal Kes 100 billion meant for poor people's medicine and just keep it in foreign accounts. That money lies there for decades because the person who stole it doesn't even need it. He will die without touching it. This is madness and stupidity of the highest level.

Well said, upon the death of corruption moguls, the billions in foreign accounts is never returned to the country it was stolen from, but retained by those nations, sent over to the treasury to be used for infrastructure upgrade, welfare, social services, education and political interference in the countries where the monies originated.

The money is stolen "to order" so it cannot be touched.
 

S_Lilly

Village Elder
#59
Pastoralism has been practised by the communities in the semi-arid areas for thousands of years, it is not that easy to change something which is almost written in your DNA. The change would have to be gradual.

Let us not be too harsh with the pastoralist communities, it is not a bad way of life. In years gone they were able to migrate to areas of pasture when one region was hit by draught, however many of this areas have been ring-fenced for game parks, tourism activities and farming leaving them without an alternative exit from the draught.

There are no draught casualties in North Africa where conditions are worse than in northern Kenyan. There are also no images of or Somalis dying in Northwest Kenya where conditions are equally harsh.

We have already discussed alternative survival means to mitigate for the draught conditions on this forum, no need to repeat.

A greater tragedy awaits, once these starving people have been feed and gained enough strength they will organise into raiding groups, terrorise residents as far as Laikipia, Isiolo and Nakuru counties killing women and children to steal cattle.
 

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