Communicating with the dead

[Gecko_Moriah]

@coldpilsner

stop being melodramatic, she didn’t mean that she worshipped her mother

Enda utoe lock kwanza ndio ukuje uongee, one may not mean to do something but may be doing it without their knowledge, this here is somebody reaching out evil spirits without their knowledge

[Gecko_Moriah]

@Liberty

Death is a delicate subject, and none of us knows much about what happens after we die. In John 13: 33, Jesus says, “Where I am going you cannot come,” reinforcing the separation between this world and the next.

At the same time, He reassures us in John 14: 2: “In my Father’s house are many rooms . . . I am going there to prepare a place” where our departed loved ones have a better, eternal home.

Realistically, this isn’t enough, and we seek ways to comfort ourselves. One means that many people use is talking to the person who just died.

Is this okay?

Yes, it is. Love doesn’t end when another person’s breath does. At a time when we’re hurting, the last thing we need is someone chastising us for talking to our lost loved one.

The problem is with the rituals associated to death and the dead, spirits use such to ensnare people.

[Liberty]

@Fala 12

@Purr_27 a.k.a …(sitaki kukuanika) kuja hapa

I have been saying am not a priest.

[system]

Yaani ni ushetani sijawahi imagine nitasikia au kuambiwa au kusoma hapa ktalk

Nmeshtuka na kushtuliwa hadi nimewaogopa

[gashwin]

@Gecko Moriah

Using complex words won’t hide the fact that what she’s doing is actually worship, putting her hope in the so called strong pillar is idolatry.Isnt what you regard as your comfort (be it money, wealth, career) your God?

which complex words have been used there now? No, it is not idolatory and attempting to reconnect with someone who had a great moral and personal influence is just a way of looking answers (like what would she have counseled I do if she were here?). Sometimes we also look for their intercession - Just like the Catholics do with Mary.

[coldpilsner]

@Yule Karis Black

@Liberty you seriously agree na Yule Mzee wa kizungu mingi???

Unajua Dini kweli???

what do you know about religion when you worship a God who allowed Mohammed to marry more than the set standard of 4 wives, you worship a God who compares the looks of a devil to a black man ( Nabtal), a God who hates Christians and Jews…you have no idea who god is. besides Muslim are the most superstitious people who deeply belive in dark powers they constantly believe in jinis

[system]

@coldpilsner

what do you know about religion when you worship a God who allowed Mohammed to marry more than the set standard of 4 wives, you worship a God who compares the looks of a devil to a black man ( Nabtal), a God who hates Christians and Jews…you have no idea who god is. besides Muslim are the most superstitious people who deeply belive in dark powers they constantly believe in jinis

We are monotheistic

All else you are alluding to seeks to draw popularity to yourself and I won’t be the porter

[coldpilsner]

@Gecko Moriah

Enda utoe lock kwanza ndio ukuje uongee, one may not mean to do something but may be doing it without their knowledge, this here is somebody reaching out evil spirits without their knowledge

mbona una lazimisha kenye haja sema, profile picture yako enyewe ina kuuza

@Liberty

I have been saying am not a priest.

you are a catechist then???

[system]

Sitalogin ktalk Leo tena …I cannot relate na ushirikina

[Etigere]

Following…

[Liberty]

@coldpilsner

mbona una lazimisha kenye haja sema, profile picture yako enyewe ina kuuza

you are a catechist then???

Nope, no, never gone to the seminary. Am a lay person just like any other. But a Catholic

[kijanamrefu]

@Gecko Moriah

So you worship your mother who is dead and pray to her and tell her all your problems instead of praying to God. Believe it or not you might be praying to demons and worshiping false spirits with the pretext that you are rendering sacred service to God

Your adopted religion tells you that Guru can’t communicate with her mother. What does it know?

@Abba

There is a verse in one of the books where God detests people who connect to spirit world either through meditation or other forms . And if or when upset he will snap the cord that ties you to that spirit world . And that’s where there is no turning back. Ninawachia hapa

Mbona hajasnap iyo cord mpaka sasa?

Guru huongelesha mama yake faraghani na anatulia. Why can’t you do the same? Why must you insist she does as you do? Is she you? Does she live your life? If she stopped, would her life then be perfect, as yours is?

[Gecko_Moriah]

Why don’t you people let her answer the questions herself, kwani mlikua hapo Na yeye? @Guru did you engage in a conversation with a spirit?

[kender9]

@Mukuhi

Doesn’t the bible condemn communication with spirits?

Deuteronomy 18:11 anyone who “consults with the dead” is “detestable to the Lord.”

[coldpilsner]

@Liberty

Nope, no, never gone to the seminary. Am a lay person just like any other. But a Catholic

God bless you

[coldpilsner]

@Yule Karis Black

We are monotheistic

All else you are alluding to seeks to draw popularity to yourself and I won’t be the porter

i thought your Islam doesn’t believe that we are monotheistic, ati mnafikiria tuna believe in multiple God’s (the trinity)

ill challenge you the same way you challenged the owner of this post… besides you are the no 1 attention hoe in this village

[kijanamrefu]

@Gecko Moriah

Why don’t you people let her answer the questions herself, kwani mlikua hapo Na yeye? @Guru did you engage in a conversation with a spirit?

Swali hapa ni mbona inakuuma? Why deny her get the carthasis she gets talking to her mother?

[anon18059438]

@Guru

When I am very low and spiritually down, I seek Almighty’s renewal of strength. But there is something else I must do. Travel to shaggs and straight to my mum’s grave where I hold a discussion with her spirit. I find myself talking out all issues that are emotionally affecting me and putting me down and true to my believe, I regain my energy and always ready to face any elephant in my life.
It is that time and after church (God comes first) I will go home to recharge.
I believe I ain’t weird.
Good day Talkers and let Jesus resurrect I your hearts.

Very much ok @Guru. In fact quite commendable. It was a strict African practice to appease the dead and offer libations to their departed spirits. Depending on what you believe in, i think it’s perfectly fine

[coldpilsner]

@Yule Karis Black

Sitalogin ktalk Leo tena …I cannot relate na ushirikina

enda uki kufanga…

[kender9]

@Guru

When I am very low and spiritually down, I seek Almighty’s renewal of strength. But there is something else I must do. Travel to shaggs and straight to my mum’s grave where I hold a discussion with her spirit.

Deuteronomy 18:11 anyone who “consults with the dead” is “detestable to the Lord.” cc @Guru, buddy as much as we empathise with you, that is not the way.
Phil 4:6 Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.
Proverbs 3:6
In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your paths straight.