digi
January 24, 2019, 3:25pm
21
kiloden:
Before you guys call me a misogynist, let it be known, that i don’t hate women and I want to see more women in tech but it should be based on merit and not on gender.
there has been an increase in feminism and the fight for equal right and pay among ladies in the workplace. many women are beginning to fight for equal pay but I will like to say that there is nothing like equal pay, even among men, we do not receive equal pay. I believe, whether you are a man or woman, you should be paid according to the effort you bring to the table, I think that is why men are higher on the payroll because they can afford to work longer hours and take more risk than women.
In our tech eco-system in Africa, due to the fundings we receive from overseas especially America and Europe, there is a tendency for tech investors to bring their cultures and agenda to dominate the tech and business culture, which can most times cause a backlash and cultural shock, one issue which I am personate about is “sexual harassment”, when is it “sexual harassment” and “flirting” but that will be a topic for another day.
Back to the issue, I have heard some tech guys here in Africa, saying they won’t start a meeting or a seminar if one or two women are not in the panel, because according to them they want diversity and a woman perspective, I sometimes laugh when I hear this phrase, should we just bring a woman to the panel just because she is a woman or because she is qualified. the tech world is dominated by man, so expect more men and men perspective.
this led me to ask this question, should a woman be given a position in tech just because she is a woman or because she merited it?
I believe in merit and I believe that an individual must prove him or herself before getting a job, now if a woman is given a job because she is a woman, it encourages favouritism and therefore can kill team morale in the work-place.
Just bring in the secretary to take notes, case closed
kiloden:
Before you guys call me a misogynist, let it be known, that i don’t hate women and I want to see more women in tech but it should be based on merit and not on gender.
there has been an increase in feminism and the fight for equal right and pay among ladies in the workplace. many women are beginning to fight for equal pay but I will like to say that there is nothing like equal pay, even among men, we do not receive equal pay. I believe, whether you are a man or woman, you should be paid according to the effort you bring to the table, I think that is why men are higher on the payroll because they can afford to work longer hours and take more risk than women.
In our tech eco-system in Africa, due to the fundings we receive from overseas especially America and Europe, there is a tendency for tech investors to bring their cultures and agenda to dominate the tech and business culture, which can most times cause a backlash and cultural shock, one issue which I am personate about is “sexual harassment”, when is it “sexual harassment” and “flirting” but that will be a topic for another day.
Back to the issue, I have heard some tech guys here in Africa, saying they won’t start a meeting or a seminar if one or two women are not in the panel, because according to them they want diversity and a woman perspective, I sometimes laugh when I hear this phrase, should we just bring a woman to the panel just because she is a woman or because she is qualified. the tech world is dominated by man, so expect more men and men perspective.
this led me to ask this question, should a woman be given a position in tech just because she is a woman or because she merited it?
I believe in merit and I believe that an individual must prove him or herself before getting a job, now if a woman is given a job because she is a woman, it encourages favouritism and therefore can kill team morale in the work-place.
You are PERSONATE about??? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:And yet here you are speaking about MERIT!!!
kiloden
January 24, 2019, 3:29pm
23
i meant passionate or eager, my mistake
At one of my places of business the ONLY people who serve whatever are ALL male. They actually make it look like a very professional job, men are great at hyping nothing into loooking like a very proffesional thing. I remember one who used act like an air hostess wa Emirates, he was a tea server. Gotta love 'em. To the women its just serving tea but majamaas they can make even the most menial job look like a big deal. Whats that title for KAMAGERA, something transport attendant…
kiloden:
Before you guys call me a misogynist, let it be known, that i don’t hate women and I want to see more women in tech but it should be based on merit and not on gender.
there has been an increase in feminism and the fight for equal right and pay among ladies in the workplace. many women are beginning to fight for equal pay but I will like to say that there is nothing like equal pay, even among men, we do not receive equal pay. I believe, whether you are a man or woman, you should be paid according to the effort you bring to the table, I think that is why men are higher on the payroll because they can afford to work longer hours and take more risk than women.
In our tech eco-system in Africa, due to the fundings we receive from overseas especially America and Europe, there is a tendency for tech investors to bring their cultures and agenda to dominate the tech and business culture, which can most times cause a backlash and cultural shock, one issue which I am personate about is “sexual harassment”, when is it “sexual harassment” and “flirting” but that will be a topic for another day.
Back to the issue, I have heard some tech guys here in Africa, saying they won’t start a meeting or a seminar if one or two women are not in the panel, because according to them they want diversity and a woman perspective, I sometimes laugh when I hear this phrase, should we just bring a woman to the panel just because she is a woman or because she is qualified. the tech world is dominated by man, so expect more men and men perspective.
this led me to ask this question, should a woman be given a position in tech just because she is a woman or because she merited it?
I believe in merit and I believe that an individual must prove him or herself before getting a job, now if a woman is given a job because she is a woman, it encourages favouritism and therefore can kill team morale in the work-place.
You are just a run of the mill MISOGYNIST. As a man who is really PERSONATE about sexual harassment, let me tell you that you may die before you are ever a victim of sexual harassment , for women by the time theyre 9 theyre already being sexually harassed. If you have never lost your job or dreaded going to work every day because your boss wants to sleep with you, carresses your legs or arms when he is alone with you, makes comments about how sweet to eat you look, calls you to his desk to show you what he wants you to work on then he opens a porn video , you cant be PERSONATE enough. You see men love talking about sexual harassment because its something that isnt the norm for their gender , for women , you dont even want to talk about it because as long as you are a woman , you can always be a victim of not just sexual harassment but RAPE . You can be 90years old woman and still get raped. So find a man who has lost his job for not sleeping with his boss and see if he feels as PERSONATE about sexual harassment as you whose never experienced it feels. I know one, he has become very sympathetic to victims of sexual harassment most of who are female.
kiloden:
Back to the issue, I have heard some tech guys here in Africa, saying they won’t start a meeting or a seminar if one or two women are not in the panel, because according to them they want diversity and a woman perspective, I sometimes laugh when I hear this phrase, should we just bring a woman to the panel
Well if you are developing a product, unless your product will only be used by a homogenous group - by the way homogeneity is very hard to find even among people raised in the same house and sharing the same DNA.This is why female vote can not be a block vote because women are not homogenous. Those who ask why women dont vote for women. So you need diverse perspectives , only an ignorant person with no capacity for critical thinking would find that laughable. You think that your bosses are the fools but clearly they understand many things that you don’t.
Men can NEVER comprehend the amount of harassment women go thru just on a day to day basis no matter how PERSONATE theyd like to think of themselves as about harrasment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A
On a light note men have some weirdass walking styles:D:D:D
Wish all woman could be this sassy buh it could get a woman killed on these streets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35KqGNa1FGA
Man:Say Mami
Google is your friend next time when something isnt making sense to yah , just google it , instead of pandering to some really bigotted group of people here by expressing views that just expose your ignorance K?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tGjgRwgAeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuK3FGwVJTs
kiloden
January 24, 2019, 4:13pm
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TrumanCapote:
You are just a run of the mill MISOGYNIST. As a man who is really PERSONATE about sexual harassment, let me tell you that you may die before you are ever a victim of sexual harassment , for women by the time theyre 9 theyre already being sexually harassed. If you have never lost your job or dreaded going to work every day because your boss wants to sleep with you, carresses your legs or arms when he is alone with you, makes comments about how sweet to eat you look, calls you to his desk to show you what he wants you to work on then he opens a porn video , you cant be PERSONATE enough. You see men love talking about sexual harassment because its something that isnt the norm for their gender , for women , you dont even want to talk about it because as long as you are a woman , you can always be a victim of not just sexual harassment but RAPE . You can be 90years old woman and still get raped. So find a man who has lost his job for not sleeping with his boss and see if he feels as PERSONATE about sexual harassment as you whose never experienced it feels. I know one, he has become very sympathetic to victims of sexual harassment most of who are female.
how does what you are writing connect with what i wrote. except you just want to get attention for no reason
kiloden
January 24, 2019, 4:15pm
30
TrumanCapote:
Men can NEVER comprehend the amount of harassment women go thru just on a day to day basis no matter how PERSONATE theyd like to think of themselves as about harrasment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A
On a light note men have some weirdass walking styles:D:D:D
Wish all woman could be this sassy buh it could get a woman killed on these streets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35KqGNa1FGA
Man:Say Mami
what has miami got to do with kenya or africa?
kiloden
January 24, 2019, 4:18pm
31
TrumanCapote:
Well if you are developing a product, unless your product will only be used by a homogenous group - by the way homogeneity is very hard to find even among people raised in the same house and sharing the same DNA.This is why female vote can not be a block vote because women are not homogenous. Those who ask why women dont vote for women. So you need diverse perspectives , only an ignorant person with no capacity for critical thinking would find that laughable. You think that your bosses are the fools but clearly they understand many things that you don’t.
i am sure, you have no knowledge of what you are writing, i guess you are one of those online SJW
what attention? Is that what you’ve been told about women who don’t agree with you -that what they want is attention? then you are more far gone than I thought you were. Your attention is clearly WORTHLESS if the things your mind dwells on is why your boss insists on including women at your workplace for the sake of diversity. Your attention would be put to better use if you research things in life you find not making sense to you instead of quickly coming to post your ignorance here.
Ofcourse I have no knowledge. You are the one with the monopoly of knowledge because you have facial hair?
Its kind of hard for someone who is so focused on minutiae to see the global picture of things.
kiloden
January 24, 2019, 4:24pm
35
i dont have the monopoly of knowledge but all that you wrote is pure trash.
kiloden
January 24, 2019, 4:25pm
36
what is global here, do people behave alike in a global world
i am talking about Kenya and Africa, you are talking about global.
kiloden
January 24, 2019, 4:26pm
37
next time, you need to read and critically think about something before writing emotion piece here
Can you debunk the points I make logically,like someone who went to school PROPERLY.
All that you wrote is pure trash is what I’d expect from someone in kindergaten.
kiloden:
what is global here, do people behave alike in a global world
i am talking about Kenya and Africa, you are talking about global.
do people behave alike in a global world [SIZE=5][FONT=book antiqua][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]I rest my case !!![/FONT][/SIZE]
My worst ‘emotion piece’ (what kind of English is this? ) is better than your best logic!!! Matter of fact, I am yet to see anything logical in anything you are saying here.