The irony of Dowry payment in a Feminist Age.

[system]

@Quanstrom

No you can’t get married. You will get fucked, not married. There is a big difference

To get fucked I would have to open my legs first.

[uwesmake]

From a kid born in the 80s nasema kulipa mahari tuliwacha na generation ya kina @gashwin. Apan tambua hio upuss madem wametombwa all over then nilipe dowry aje hakuna hio ni ujinga.

Dem mukipendana piga yeye ball leta kwa nyumba muishi na usikae na dem more than 6 months kama hujachapa ball . Mambo ya mahari ukiona umejenga nyumba na umenunua gari na watoto wamemaliza university then unaweza rudisha mkono kwa wazazi to your level .

Hata Mimi kama si bibi kunipenda ningekuwa naishi peke yangu bila upuss .

[Ka-Buda]

@girlciki93

lol cry me a river.
so women have slept with men, you’re angry coz they didn’t sleep with you?
if they did you wouldn’t whine coz all men want is sex. ebu chunguza kitu those “more men than they count on all their fingers and toes!” are doing

I have my baby-mommas so I’m just seeking a helper with benefits.
I’m not even necessarily looking for more children but I wouldn’t mind having more with a worthy woman.
That’s why a Mboch seems like the most Suitable candidate!

[Quanstrom]

@MaryJane

To get fucked I would have to open my legs first.

Yes. You confuse sex for marriage sister. No doubt you can get most men to your bed. But making them commit, that is the hard part you can’t pull off.

[YuleMseeMbaya]

@MaryJane

Can I live without a man? Yes.
Can I get married despite being a feminist? Yes.
Why should a man pay dowry for a feminist?
I don’t k ow about others but if I am to slave away for a man 24/7, carry a baby and have it stretch my vagina to unimaginable size to make him a father, come home breastfeed and what not till he/she grows and continue picking after a man - washing, cooking and cleaning after him. Then he’ll yeah he is paying dowry. Na sio ngombe ya kawaida. Ni ng’ombe ndume hakure! Na sio moja.

-Most women rarely wash, cook and clean they hire housemaids. And that is not difficult work,believe me i am a very good cook, cooking does not take even an hour,same as cleaning and washing.Neither is taking care of a baby hard work,i have also done it on behalf of someone, one must be incredibly lazy to say that these things are difficult.

[system]

I love my FH very much and I know his financial situation and what my parents kinda expect. Putting all things in context, I think I’ll be paying my own dowry lol, but I don’t even care. I’ve kufiad the guy, kienyeji safi sana hajakuwa spoilt by modernity. :p:D:D

[Ka-Buda]

@MaryJane

We cannot walk away from our culture.

But marriage doesn’t have to be all about Dowry.
Actually, statistically, the most successful long term relationships in Kenya Start with the “come we stay” arrangement.
Watoto next, then worry about dowry after you are more settled financially plus you’ve got to know each other better.

[YuleMseeMbaya]

@Ka-Buda

Apparently, Meghan Markle; the latest addition to the dysfunctional family that is the British royal family is a self confessed Feminist.

What is a Feminist?
She is a divorcee and chances are we might see a black baby waving back at us from the upper balcony of Buckingham palace! (I’m sure there are plenty of Brits who are hoping their babies don’t come out in the wrong shade of black!.. kikikikkkk…)

In Kikuyu culture, there is a saying or rather a description for impregnating a woman before marrying her.
" Kuuna mburi kuguru"
Loosely translated, it means Breaking the Goat’s leg.

It means damaging and devaluing goods for sale.
It means that an interested buyer will not fork out the asking/going price of the said commodity and in all honesty, the buyer has an upper hand in negotiations because he is paying for inferior quality goods.

So how does a modern, Educated Kenyan woman in 2017 reconcile being a Feminist and then going through with being “bought” in the name of Dowry?

Never mind the double standards, but is any woman today worth paying dowry for?
I can only speak from a Kikuyu cultural point of view.

In my grandfather’s time, the potential bride had to be a virgin and of good reputation for her to even be considered marriage material.
Today, the average 21 year old woman strutting their behinds on the streets of Nairobi has slept with more men than they count on all their fingers and toes!
They demand respect and claim to be independent and empowered.
They might even have a sprog or two!

But they still want you to “pay” for them in marriage.
Isn’t it what Dowry is ?.. Payment?

In Kikuyu marriage is traditionally described as " kugurana" … - Purchasing.

@MaryJane , @Purple etc… how do you justify allowing your parents to accept any payment or reward in exchange for you as an independent human being/woman in 2017?
And is it not ridiculous that any woman today would even consider themselves Empowered if her parents accepted any form of dowry for her hand in marriage?

There is no such thing as Feminism.

There is just a whole new generation of selfish women who want to have their cake and eat it too.
And they won’t let culture, religion or morality get in their way.

Personally, I don’t know any woman that is worth paying dowry for.
In an age of equality there is no place for dowry.
Women are traditionally and religiously supposed to be Helpers of the man.

And that is why I choose to invest in a Mboch rather than a wife.

#resistdowrypayment
#savetheboychild

From your posts you seem to be very angry at women,just let women be, but also have some expectations and standards when getting into marriage/relationship, a lot of women feel entitled because all they know they have to bring is sex.Take them serious when they bring more and also give your A1 best

[system]

@Quanstrom

Yes. You confuse sex for marriage sister. No doubt you can get most men to your bed. But making them commit, that is the hard part you can’t pull off.

Assumptions.

[Quanstrom]

@MaryJane and other single mothers /feminazis experience one problem. Getting men to bed is easy…making them commit is almost impossible. Most confuse getting laid and getting married. Most men will drill anything with a heartbeat…but leave soon thereafter when common sense kicks in and the alcohol wears off. Would I fuck a single mother? Instantly. Would I marry one? Fuck no.

[Ka-Buda]

@Purple

I love my FH very much and I know his financial situation and what my parents kinda expect. Putting all things in context, I think I’ll be paying my own dowry lol, but I don’t even care. I’ve kufiad the guy, kienyeji safi sana hajakuwa spoilt by modernity. :p:D:D

I wonder what he really thinks of you.
I still believe a woman should love the man more than the man loves her in a healthy relationship so all the best.
But if you think you’re going to import a man you push about ati juu umemleta America, you have another thing Cumming!

Wish you all the best.

[system]

@YuleMseeMbaya

-Most women rarely wash, cook and clean they hire housemaids. And that is not difficult work,believe me i am a very good cook, cooking does not take even an hour,same as cleaning and washing.Neither is taking care of a baby hard work,i have also done it on behalf of someone, one must be incredibly lazy to say that these things are difficult.

To quote Owino, why speak like you have just landed from the moon? You are the same men who are our brothers, ours sister’s husbands, our uncles our neighbours. We see and we know how you behave in households.

[Quanstrom]

@MaryJane

Assumptions.

Are you married?

[system]

@Purple

I love my FH very much and I know his financial situation and what my parents kinda expect. Putting all things in context, I think I’ll be paying my own dowry lol, but I don’t even care. I’ve kufiad the guy, kienyeji safi sana hajakuwa spoilt by modernity. :p:D:D

nunulia yeye fh nimuonyeshe kazi

[Ka-Buda]

@YuleMseeMbaya

From your posts you seem to be very angry at women,just let women be, but also have some expectations and standards when getting into marriage/relationship, a lot of women feel entitled because all they know they have to bring is sex.Take them serious when they bring more and also give your A1 best

I’m not angry at women.
I hate pretentious Feminists and the way the law favours them.
When you have kids you will understand.

[Ka-Buda]

@Trejo

nunulia yeye fh nimuonyeshe kazi

Niaje Wakanyama?

[system]

@Ka-Buda

But marriage doesn’t have to be all about Dowry.
Actually, statistically, the most successful long term relationships in Kenya Start with the “come we stay” arrangement.
Watoto next, then worry about dowry after you are more settled financially plus you’ve got to know each other better.

There is nothing like knowing each other better. Even when you know each other, there are still things that can potentially break a marriage if there is no conscious choice to work and stay in a marriage. Marriage is not feeling, it is a choice.

[system]

@Quanstrom

@MaryJane and other single mothers /feminazis experience one problem. Getting men to bed is easy…making them commit is almost impossible. Most confuse getting laid and getting married. Most men will drill anything with a heartbeat…but leave soon thereafter when common sense kicks in and the alcohol wears off. Would I fk a single mother? Instantly. Would I marry one? fk no.

I have no idea how we got here. . . . . .

[LeoK]

You have touched a nerve, ergo so true. Them loose hoes all over the post.

[Quanstrom]

@MaryJane

I have no idea how we got here. . . . . .

Extrapolate to feminazis. Same theory applies.